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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby matan002 » Wed Jan 04, 2017 8:56 pm

Judaism wrote:
Claeyt wrote:There is nothing in this game that is Pay to Win. Store perks like quicker hay gathering or faster harvesting or a new hat is absolutely preferable to a subscription based game. You can even buy the stuff with in game currency in all cases that I've seen in the stalls. There is not a single store bought item I haven't seen in a player stall or on the trade forums.



What are you talking about tho, I´d sell bases for silver, people sell food for silver, potions for silver and so on. If you had 500k to spend right off the bat, you could surely skip alot of base development, biles and skill development. Paying can play a significant role in this game.

If you spend a fortune......
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Judaism » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:02 pm

matan002 wrote:If you spend a fortune......


Roundabout 940 dollars for 500.000 silver in game. I´ve sold brick based with plenty of infrastructure for 20.000s before, that alone woudn´t be expensive. But 940 dollars is not that much, we have people that spend around that every quarter, if they spend their money efficiency on the items they would be able to get a major advantage over other people.

Lets say you were to buy 100.000 thru items, 30.000 silver is enough to buy a really good base, bypassing some months of base development. Then you have another 35.000 silver to spend on food to bile up, that easily is a 500 to all character and then another 35.000 silver to spend on potions and insps to learn the majority of skills.

That can be done with <200 dollars, basicly bypassing several months of gameplay incase you start out. Also, were you to invest more then you could annoy people with creating towns near enemy bases, dropping annoying waste claims and so on, this game clearly can be pay to win in alot of the cases.
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby MaxPlanck » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:06 pm

Judaism wrote:What are you talking about tho, I´d sell bases for silver, people sell food for silver, potions for silver and so on. If you had 500k to spend right off the bat, you could surely skip alot of base development, biles and skill development. Paying can play a significant role in this game.


This is very true. Getting 500k solely based on store-based products though is pretty expensive but if some rich idiot wants to do it he could p2w to an extent till he goes broke.

Problem with selling bases that are townbell owned is that the seller can just make an alt and log it out right next to the townbell and proceed to destroy it at a later date and loot everything with a TbF as long as the player who bought it doesn't build something where that char. logged out or doesn't build a hefty pclaim you don't want to waste silver on. Course newbies wouldn't really know this.
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Kerryann » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:18 pm

@ Claeyt ... you do this everytime anything new happens at Haven, including coming over to our forums only to be derisive and antagonistic, you wouldn't act in that kind of immature way unless you felt Salem was severely threatened by H&H ... :)

You do your favourite game no favours either ... your attitude simply means you either get ignored or ridiculed. :?

A lot of players enjoy both games which is a good thing for both development teams, no-one has to chose one or the other, which ultimately is a good thing for both games player bases.

There are not 3 wipes a year, as others have said, the reason for this wipe is due to all the new content and new mechanics the devs have introduced during world 9 and want to see played out in a new world. :)
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Claeyt » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:29 pm

Kerryann wrote:@ Claeyt ... you do this everytime anything new happens at Haven, including coming over to our forums only to be derisive and antagonistic, you wouldn't act in that kind of immature way unless you felt Salem was severely threatened by H&H ... :)

You do your favourite game no favours either ... your attitude simply means you either get ignored or ridiculed. :?

A lot of players enjoy both games which is a good thing for both development teams, no-one has to chose one or the other, which ultimately is a good thing for both games player bases.

There are not 3 wipes a year, as others have said, the reason for this wipe is due to all the new content and new mechanics the devs have introduced during world 9 and want to see played out in a new world. :)


I fully understand that some players like both games and there are some things that have improved with HnH like the graphics but it is a horribly grindy game which is wiped much more than Salem which is also a horribly grindy game. Why play a grindy game if it just gets wiped every year? It's almost as if the only reason Jorbtar wipe it is to give the people who got raided something to hope for next time (and of course a reason to keep paying the subscription).

Good grindy MMO games like EVE, Salem and Black Desert DO NOT wipe their servers, they adapt them to new content with more new content and keep their history so as to make the game deeper and more meaningful. Slowly groups die, bases fall and corrode and new bases and groups rise. Even as huge big teams like the Tribe, Rustatorium, Valhalla and City of Dreams split, break up and slowly fade away, their bases or the outline of their bases still stand there to provide a meaningful history to the game and whats happened so far.
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Darwoth » Wed Jan 04, 2017 9:49 pm

Dallane wrote:
Look at you falling for the liberal poison. You reading the new york times now also?



:lol: :lol:

like i said i was not keeping a close eye on it, but knowing there have been several with absurdly short timeframes it seemed accurate, did not think even claeyt could ***** that up since he follows the game. yes i should have known better :lol:
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Claeyt » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:07 pm

Dallane wrote:Look at you falling for the liberal poison.


Here's another reason to hate HnH. Jorb sets aside his libertarian nonsense, anyone can post anything philosophy when it suits him. The dev's here rightfully have no problem with HnH players announcing world 10 over here because they realize that both games are liked and played by the player base of both games while Jorb immediately bans me for posting that our PvP server just finished and a new one is coming soon. I even have an active account with a character on it over there.

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So much for unregulated forums and Jorbtar's libertarian freedoms. :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby RobertoKarlos » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:12 pm

Claeyt wrote:
Dallane wrote:Look at you falling for the liberal poison.


Here's another reason to hate HnH. Jorb sets aside his libertarian nonsense, anyone can post anything philosophy when it suits him. The dev's here rightfully have no problem with HnH players announcing world 10 over here because they realize that both games are liked and played by the player base of both games while Jorb immediately bans me for posting that our PvP server just finished and a new one is coming soon. I even have an active account with a character on it over there.

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So much for unregulated forums and Jorbtar's libertarian freedoms. :lol: :lol: :lol:

Dude sometimes i want to punch you so badly that my veins pop out.
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Dallane » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:15 pm

Claeyt wrote:I fully understand that some players like both games and there are some things that have improved with HnH like the graphics but it is a horribly grindy game which is wiped much more than Salem which is also a horribly grindy game. Why play a grindy game if it just gets wiped every year? It's almost as if the only reason Jorbtar wipe it is to give the people who got raided something to hope for next time (and of course a reason to keep paying the subscription).

Good grindy MMO games like EVE, Salem and Black Desert DO NOT wipe their servers, they adapt them to new content with more new content and keep their history so as to make the game deeper and more meaningful. Slowly groups die, bases fall and corrode and new bases and groups rise. Even as huge big teams like the Tribe, Rustatorium, Valhalla and City of Dreams split, break up and slowly fade away, their bases or the outline of their bases still stand there to provide a meaningful history to the game and whats happened so far.


You clearly don't understand that people can like both games. You constantly report and ***** when people talk about or like any game other than salem here.

You should really check up on the game because there have been constant updates to the game 1-2 times a month. There is actually less grind to hnh than salem. Stop being so ***** biased to ****.

Bashing a game because the devs want money for their work is straight retarded. Why are you spewing that retarded commie ****? You don't complain about the store items which give more advantage in the long run here. There isn't much of a difference. The playerbase is happy with whats available in both games so whats the problem.

Eve is not grindy nor a good MMO. Black desert is a total **** show P2W grind fest. Those games also aren't a real sandbox and have more than 1 programmer working on it.

You come across some dead city and wonder if you can use it or loot it like some end of the world vagabond not wonder "I wonder what glorious beast dwelled here." Aren't all 4 cities and groups you just mentioned dead and gone from the last wipe? You don't need the ruins of a dead city for the game to have history. I still remember the great /tg/ migration running from killface and co. when I first started playing hnh. I don't need to see the ruins of the first hnh village to remind me of that or show others. Games like these have a living history with the people who play not from some random pixels on the ground.
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Re: World 10 hmmm

Postby Dallane » Wed Jan 04, 2017 10:18 pm

Claeyt wrote:
Dallane wrote:Look at you falling for the liberal poison.


Here's another reason to hate HnH. Jorb sets aside his libertarian nonsense, anyone can post anything philosophy when it suits him. The dev's here rightfully have no problem with HnH players announcing world 10 over here because they realize that both games are liked and played by the player base of both games while Jorb immediately bans me for posting that our PvP server just finished and a new one is coming soon. I even have an active account with a character on it over there.

So much for unregulated forums and Jorbtar's libertarian freedoms. :lol: :lol: :lol:


You were banned because you are a total ***** retard who only **** post. OP to this thread is a gold star member who wasn't *****. You post about this game when there is no set date of the expedition and no actual news on it. How many times has Meow told you to stay off their forums? How many times has Meow told you to stop advertising this game because you do more harm than good when you tell other people about the game.
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