The second debate

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Re: The second debate

Postby Heffernan » Tue Oct 11, 2016 8:09 am

TotalyMeow wrote:
Lazun123 wrote:I have a question, if Hilary starts a war with Russia, do you think JC would ban all the Russians from Salem lol?


No.


Starting a War with a country full of Nuclear Weapons? not even Killary would be this dumb, the Russians would blow them off the landmap in seconds.
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Re: The second debate

Postby DarkNacht » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:15 am

She probably wont start a direct war with Russia but that don't mean she wont get into more proxy wars.
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Re: The second debate

Postby cyko » Tue Oct 11, 2016 9:23 am

Right.
The whole new conflict between Russia and USA is about gas markets. It would make no sense to bomb these markets.
However, there is always the danger of an escalation of a proxy war and although i think, that Putin is a rational guy (not a good guy - a rational guy), there is always the possibility that Russia feels to much provoked.
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Re: The second debate

Postby Dallane » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:31 pm

Heffernan wrote:the Russians would blow them off the landmap in seconds.


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Re: The second debate

Postby ZoddAlmighty » Tue Oct 11, 2016 12:36 pm

cyko wrote:
TotalyMeow wrote:I'm not sure Sanders would have been all that better of a candidate than Hillary, he's very socialist. He wanted things like 'free' college education. Nothing is free; someone has to pay. I'd rather keep my money and pay for my own things.


I don't know what "socialist" means in the USA. In Europe we have experience with real socialism, overall not good experiences of course. Sanders calls himself a "social democrat".
I think he is not even that, comparing with the concepts of social democracy.
He is a Roosevelt-Democrat, a New-Deal-Democrat, which is deeply an us-american concept. And Roosevelts New Deal wasn't so bad at all, as we all know.

Nothing is free, that's right. But don't forget that you live in an economic system which already distributes money itself. It can't be so bad to think about more democratic ways of distribution of capital - be aware, we talk about concerns, banks and so on, not the money of the common people. Afair the us-american constitution begins with "We the people...".. not "We.. the rich.. and the people...".
But that is just my opinion.

rustles wrote: Sweden has more "surprise sex" than most 3rd world countries now

That's not true. Not in Sweden, not in UK, not in Greece, not in Germany.
True is, that some people here are afraid of the future, a future with many people who simply look different, have different culture and so on. And true is also, that nationalistic parties rise in nearly every country here and that there is also an overheated debate about all those traditional fears about "foreign men who rob our women" and so on.
This debate runs via facebook or other social media and in the great majority, those cases are fake, free of facts. But this seems not to be interesting for those people.
All this new hatred, biologism, even racism in Europe is completely independent of facts and that's the point which scares me.
In my country it has already begun to expand to hatred for intellectuals or simply people with other opinions...

I live in Sweden and you dude do not know **** about whats happening here.
I suggest you shut your mouth and invite unlimited ammount of people are still stuck in 12 century and are of islamic belief to live right next to you. I wonder how long before female members of your familly start wearing burkas or how ever that **** is called.
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Re: The second debate

Postby Amnezia88 » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:20 pm

ZoddAlmighty wrote:truth

Have no worries Zodd, soon the Trump will rule along with many like minded rulers in Europe. They are already seeing that this policy is not working. I'm sorry to see and hear these things are happening in your country. Vote for the right party and show the EU Chieftains your country does not agree with their ways. SWEXIT! Just look at what they are doing
Better get your burka ready :roll:
Image I'm prepared...are you?
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Re: The second debate

Postby Kralith » Tue Oct 11, 2016 1:42 pm

cyko wrote:This debate runs via facebook or other social media and in the great majority, those cases are fake, free of facts. But this seems not to be interesting for those people.
All this new hatred, biologism, even racism in Europe is completely independent of facts and that's the point which scares me.
In my country it has already begun to expand to hatred for intellectuals or simply people with other opinions...


True and bitter fact, most debates over social media platforms are independent of facts. And at the todays times the most of them in the world goes over this platforms.
There is often a simple receipe:
- Took some weird Youtube-Video
- link it in facebook and write 2-3 lurid sentences
- wait
Result:
You have a debate with many clicks.
Nobody gets notice the silent voices of intellectuals (who are able to inform them self first).
And if their voice is maybe noticeable, because they try to go down to the niveau of factless poster, they get nothing than insults.
The real migthy people today seems to be all the brainwashed people who like to sit in the midday in front of the TV, looking dumb shows and posting her entire life at facebook to get some unimportant attention.

Yes, that scares me too.
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Re: The second debate

Postby cyko » Tue Oct 11, 2016 2:48 pm

In my country, syrian refugees have yesterday captured a potential terrorist and called the police.

I'm sure, that no one of these social media right wingers will write much about it.

Btw, never seen a Burka in my hometown. And i live in a district with nearly 25% muslims in the population.
Zodd, i don't wanna piss you off, but to be honest, i am more afraid of this highly aggressive rightwing movement, than about my muslim neighbours.
Especially more than about refugees from a secular state.
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Re: The second debate

Postby Heffernan » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:00 pm

cyko wrote:In my country, syrian refugees have yesterday captured a potential terrorist and called the police.

I'm sure, that no one of these social media right wingers will write much about it.

Btw, never seen a Burka in my hometown. And i live in a district with nearly 25% muslims in the population.
Zodd, i don't wanna piss you off, but to be honest, i am more afraid of this highly aggressive rightwing movement, than about my muslim neighbours.
Especially more than about refugees from a secular state.


oh great financial invaders captured a terrorist.
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Re: The second debate

Postby cyko » Tue Oct 11, 2016 3:19 pm

Refugees.
Are you able to understand that term?

Maybe i should bring up too, that in the last year the number of commited capital crimes against refugees in our country (including attempted murder, including attempts to burn a namibian mother including her children - by common people!) exceedes comparable crimes of refugees by far.
And you are speaking about invaders? C'mon.
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