TL;DR: The Thread

[Claeyt]

The "modern world" that you are arguing in defense of, Claeyt, is an imperial cleptocracy. Your precious "democracy" is running a surveillance program that makes the Stasi look like amateurs, hunting dissidents to the ends of the earth, projecting imperial military might over every corner of the globe (contradiction intended) while lining the pockets of industry, the big banks and corporate interests to the tune of trillions, and debt-financing political bread and circuses for the numb and impotent majority left over. You are a shill for Empire, Power and Goldman Sachs, and I grow quite weary of your intellectually dishonest accusations of "racism" (whatever you imagine the term to mean), cowardice and authoritarian disposition. If it were not for the fact that your kind of Jacobin ilk insisted on stealing 70% of my disposable income for these grand purposes of empire, welfare and fornication, I would not spend one minute of my time worrying about what you do with your life.



God save the King.

Your posts just get weirder and weirder Jorb. I don't support the NSA either and I intend to vote against the people who do support it this next election. You have such a bleak idea of where we are at, and where we're going. I kind of feel sorry for you.

[jorb]

Stop arguing for killing children, Claeyt. It's just not funny anymore.

[wormcsa]

I'm impressed with your inability to respond in a logical fashion, your continual use of pathetic personal attacks, your consistent misrepresentation of your opponent's argument and your unabashed ability to misinterpret studies to support your preconceived reality. What follows are but a few examples of the above, as I simply do not have time to go through all the nonsense you've posted. I highly doubt I will respond again, as I don't care to argue with someone who argues so dishonestly.

Pathetic personal attack:

I'm going to say A), with the caveat that you also wouldn't want any of them to marry your daughter.

Where the ***** do you get off making assumptions like that about people you've never met? Usually you liberals have a special word for that. Should I start talking about your mother? Yes, I live in a country where I am scared of every single person with whom I interact on a daily basis. That makes a lot of sense. And for your information, I would not be ok with anybody marrying my mixed raced daughter, as she is 2 years old. When she is old enough, she can marry whomever she wants. Her life, her decision, you self righteous liberal prick.

Misrepresentation of argument:

Violence is also learned culturally and is not genetic, unless the person is also diagnosed with an actual neurological disability which in rare cases can be passed on genetically. There are many neurological disabilities that make you more prone to violence (ex. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) that are not passed on genetically.
Both theories are proven.

I simply stated that men are more prone to violence then women. Do you disagree? Do you believe humans are somehow not animals? Do you think male chimpanzees are more violent than female chimpanzees because of culture? And no, it is not proven that there is no genetic factor in propensity to commit crime.

Reinterpretation of evidence:

IQ studies of twins, and IQ growth studies in abused and neglected children after their environment changes prove that environment and culture affect overall IQ.

While true that massive abuse, neglect or total lack of education does retard intellectual development, twin studies have suggested the exact opposite of what you stated. Eg, identical twins raised in totally different social economic backgrounds have almost exactly the same correlation in intelligence (and other factors) as those raised in the same household. They have a much higher correlation than non twin siblings raised in the same household, thus practically refuting your 1970s feel good theories in one fell swoop.

I suggest you follow your self-imposed ban from now on.

[jorb]

I don't support the NSA either and I intend to vote against the people who do support it this next election.

If voting changed anything it would be illegal. The fact that you lend credence and support to these institutions and the meaningfulness of their decision making processes means that you accept some level of responsibility for the outcome of those processes -- in this case empire, murder, banksterism and welfarism. You lend support to the very institutions that engage in these behaviors, thus: Shill.

If you support the process, you support the outcome. You support the process of democracy, thus you support empire. It is very simple.

[Claeyt]

Stop arguing for killing children, Claeyt. It's just not funny anymore.

I don't get it, how so?

[Claeyt]

I don't support the NSA either and I intend to vote against the people who do support it this next election.

If voting changed anything it would be illegal. The fact that you lend credence and support to these institutions and the meaningfulness of their decision making processes means that you accept some level of responsibility for the outcome of those processes -- in this case empire, murder, banksterism and welfarism. You lend support to the very institutions that engage in these behaviors, thus: Shill.

If you support the process, you support the outcome. You support the process of democracy, thus you support empire. It is very simple.

That's just scary Jorb, are you saying you don't support Democracy in any form?

[Claeyt]

I'm impressed with your inability to respond in a logical fashion, your continual use of pathetic personal attacks, your consistent misrepresentation of your opponent's argument and your unabashed ability to misinterpret studies to support your preconceived reality. What follows are but a few examples of the above, as I simply do not have time to go through all the nonsense you've posted. I highly doubt I will respond again, as I don't care to argue with someone who argues so dishonestly.

I think I'm being logical. You and Jorb are the one's arguing ideas that are outside the ideas of where society is right now. Your posts are the nonsense here, not mine.

I'm going to say A), with the caveat that you also wouldn't want any of them to marry your daughter.

Where the ***** do you get off making assumptions like that about people you've never met? Usually you liberals have a special word for that. Should I start talking about your mother? Yes, I live in a country where I am scared of every single person with whom I interact on a daily basis. That makes a lot of sense. And for your information, I would not be ok with anybody marrying my mixed raced daughter, as she is 2 years old. When she is old enough, she can marry whomever she wants. Her life, her decision, you self righteous liberal prick.

Wait so your saying you're scared of every person in your country. I figured it was actually A. Why are you scared of everyone in the country? Where do you live?

Violence is also learned culturally and is not genetic, unless the person is also diagnosed with an actual neurological disability which in rare cases can be passed on genetically. There are many neurological disabilities that make you more prone to violence (ex. Fetal Alcohol Syndrome) that are not passed on genetically.
Both theories are proven.

I simply stated that men are more prone to violence then women. Do you disagree? Do you believe humans are somehow not animals? Do you think male chimpanzees are more violent than female chimpanzees because of culture? And no, it is not proven that there is no genetic factor in propensity to commit crime.

Violence is part of Culture, it's not genetic.

IQ studies of twins, and IQ growth studies in abused and neglected children after their environment changes prove that environment and culture affect overall IQ.

While true that massive abuse, neglect or total lack of education does retard intellectual development, twin studies have suggested the exact opposite of what you stated. Eg, identical twins raised in totally different social economic backgrounds have almost exactly the same correlation in intelligence (and other factors) as those raised in the same household. They have a much higher correlation than non twin siblings raised in the same household, thus practically refuting your 1970s feel good theories in one fell swoop.

Studies on Environment and intelligence point to environment as much more important to IQ than genetics.

I suggest you follow your self-imposed ban from now on.

Ban, what ban?

[jorb]

That's just scary Jorb, are you saying you don't support Democracy in any form?

I am against the rule by banks and political parties, yes.

[TeckXKnight]

That's just scary Jorb, are you saying you don't support Democracy in any form?

I am against the rule by banks and political parties, yes.

I've personally been in favor of banking because lending is the best form of resource distribution that I know of. In the absence of banking, what sorts of economy would you suggest as an improvement?

[jorb]

I don't have anything per se against banking as a business venture. I have everything against it as a vehicle of political clout and power.