Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby Potjeh » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:47 am

Because elections in Eastern Europe are not rigged at all :roll:
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby Claeyt » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:51 am

...and it's official.

Ukraine Pravda is reporting that a Russian Paratrooper was captured with the over 60 police being held inside the Energy Building. His badge and Passport was given to the EU foreign ministers.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby naosnule » Thu Feb 20, 2014 11:53 am

Potjeh wrote:Because elections in Eastern Europe are not rigged at all :roll:


If you can prove they were rigged in such way the winner is different, there would be economical consequences from other countries such as Russia. It is a high price to pay.

This rage we are seeing now is not due to alledged rigged elections.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby ysbryd » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:03 pm

I dont care which side you are on, what your politics are, there is something deeply wrong with sniping crowds from rooftops.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby Brego » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:04 pm

Well.
Civil war has begun
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby naosnule » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:05 pm

ysbryd wrote:I dont care which side you are on, what your politics are, there is something deeply wrong with sniping crowds from rooftops.


Not if the law of the country allows them to do so. That's what true democracy is about: the majority may allow thing you dislike.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby ysbryd » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:07 pm

Execution without trial... well if the government allows that, then maybe it shouldnt be in government.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby naosnule » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:08 pm

ysbryd wrote:Execution without trial... well if the government allows that, then maybe it shouldnt be in government.


"Execution without trial" is definitely allowed in many countries, since police is allowed to use deadly force if they are sufficiently threatened.

Edit: In democracies, the people elect their leaders. If they change their minds later on, then vote for someone else in next election. Trying to get rid of a democratically elected government prematurely through illegal means (such as through the use of violence), is despicable.
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby ysbryd » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:10 pm

How threatened is a sniper on top of a building? just saying....
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Re: Your opinion about the Civil War in Ukraine

Postby DemonEyes » Thu Feb 20, 2014 12:12 pm

I still find it hard to have much sympathy with people who throw firebombs at others who are just doing their job.. All involved have families and the anger is not directed towards the people at fault, just the people in front of them. This level of violence has never solved anything, cost the lives of innocents.

Whatever the issues, violence and acts of vandalism are never the solution.. my mind goes to them who are forced to stand in front of the demonstrators, and have to put up with unreasonable threats to their life. Demonstrating is one thing, acts of aggression just cause me to dislike both sides equally..

I hate the way, when things like this go on, everyone who dies is 'always' innocent, even though they are there, they have the chance to not be there, they dont have to side with people who are being violent or commiting actsw of agggression against people who are only doing their job, trying to maintain peace and order.
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