jakhollin wrote:Cleayt will find this interesting! Evidence located of Russians hacking Americans.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8U8w3F2VzYo
Claeyt wrote:1. The BBC is reporting that CIA sources are confirming that former MI-6 officer Steele was correct in saying that Former Russian Foreign Ministry official Mikhail Kalugin WAS in fact a spy using diplomatic protection while working in the U.S. and that further information is pointing to him as being involved in the U.S. election operation.
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TotalyMeow wrote:There's still no there there, Claeyt.
TotalyMeow wrote:As for this:Claeyt wrote:1. The BBC is reporting that CIA sources are confirming that former MI-6 officer Steele was correct in saying that Former Russian Foreign Ministry official Mikhail Kalugin WAS in fact a spy using diplomatic protection while working in the U.S. and that further information is pointing to him as being involved in the U.S. election operation.
Maybe you know less about governance than I thought you did, but it has been the primary job of every diplomat in the history of civilization to spy for their government and do their best to charm information out of local citizens, try to develop potential information sources, manipulate the local government, and otherwise do everything they can to benefit their own country. Negotiating treaties and the like is often their secondary purpose. Our diplomats, at least the ones to any major countries, are spies trained by the CIA; this is a "Well duh," kinda story.
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TotalyMeow wrote:Actually, if you follow any of the real news, you'd see that Trump is messing up big time at the moment. Though a lot of it isn't Trump but the Republicans in the House and Senate behaving like a bunch of *******. I'm really surprised you're so fixated on this fake stuff when there's actual real reasons for you to mock the Republicans right now. Sure Democrats aren't doing much better, both parties seem to be in a meltdown right now, but I'm sure you haven't noticed that either. :/
Edit: Regarding Flynn, probably a smart move on his part. He's one of what, two people whom some of the evidence suggests might have done something wrong? The FBI hasn't accepted his request though; perhaps there's nothing for him to tell, there's no evidence to that effect.
TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
Claeyt wrote:How is any of this fake news? Flynn's lawyers himself have said that "He has a story to tell". Why do you still think that the illegal connections between Flynn the Trump Campaign and Russian Intelligence is fake if Flynn himself is seeking immunity from prosecution and offering up others?
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TotalyMeow wrote:Firstly, they'd be pretty stupid lawyers if they asked for immunity and then admitted that Flynn has bupkis.
Second, you can look at any major political campaign and almost any international business and find connections to foreign countries, some of them not always so friendly to us.
TotalyMeow wrote:You'll find the same sort of communications happened in Hillary's campaign, in previous presidential campaigns, senators' campaigns, etc. So far, there have been some people in the Trump campaign talking to Russia, but no actual evidence of any collusion or wrongdoing except maybe some wrong done on the part of Flynn and Manafort. But they were both dumped immediately by Trump seemingly as soon as he found out about these possible wrongs. Have Trump and his staff handled some things poorly since then? Sure. They try to pretend silly things like they hardly know who Flynn is or Manafort was the equivalent of a volunteer phone canvasser, and that's rather idiotic. They make things look worse than they are and aren't helping themselves by doing it, but there's still just nothing there.
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