Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Announcements of major changes to Salem.

Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby jorb » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:32 am

We've been developing, and here're some new things:

"Send home" can no longer be used in combat
Small animals can now be dropped in water
Player corpses can now be carried and destroyed.

Symbolic, but better than nothing.

---------------------------------------------------------

As has been previously revealed here, Paradox has generously decided to give us free hands in the future development of Salem, and in light of that it seems prudent to say a few words about the present and future states of it. Thus.

I would be lying if I said that there wasn't at least a slight sense of disappointment on our part with Salem's relative non-performance of late in terms of user numbers and whatnot (and obviously that feeling comes with a fair amount of self-criticism) but rather than brood on that and beat ourselves up over it, we'd much prefer to focus now on the things about our new-found position that we do find to be positive, the bottom line of which is that all outside pressure on us to deliver anything in particular is now off, which -- considering how we follow the user graphs much like anyone else -- feels like a relief. We strongly feel that this freer vantage point leaves us in a vastly better position than previously to judge where development on the game is actually needed, and where the game in its present state fails to entertain. It also allows us to actually go back and revisit older implementations with fresh eyes, something that we under the previous regimes have found difficult to do, as reasoning freely about older implementations may lead to conclusions that may in turn come to imply development time spent on rewrites of already existing content and relatively long stretches of time without visible and immediate improvement of the game.

There are a number of systems in the present state of Salem that we have begun to entertain quite serious doubts about, perhaps chiefly so the gluttony system, but also to some extent the farming system and the foraging and consumption paradigms in general. For lack of a better word the game lacks a bit of a pulse in the minute-to-minute gameplay experience(which I guess could be considered the definition of being dead) and that is not as it should be.

Our present conclusion is that we need to rethink the gluttony system before we do anything else, as essentially the entirety of the rest of the game hinges on it. (The basic problem we see with the system is, by the by, not that it is too complex or deep, but rather the opposite. The system rewards you heavily for spamming a single optimal food type, and that makes all other food types useless, boring and uninteresting, basically.) Thus that is, quite simply, precisely what we intend to do.

It is too early for us to speculate in other and more weighty administrative questions (map resets and whatnot), but I will say that we at this point want to keep all options on the table. Our only focus at this point is what we believe to be the best interest of the game's long term health and survival, and that is precisely the goal toward which we will continue to work.

As we always have.

Meaningful updates may be infrequent for a while, but we have an ambition to at least mark some sense of our presence with little micro updates and fixes.

(As for the forums, all "admins" will be removed, and I'll be looking over the present mod list and forum rules. If the mods make you cry in the future, you may now appeal to me, but please don't.)

I think that was all...

Enjoy! Long live Salem! :)
User avatar
jorb
 
Posts: 939
Joined: Sun Jul 08, 2012 7:33 am

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby belgear » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:33 am

thanks!
I am sure Paradox not being in the picture will yield better results. Less people to please, and stuffs.
I like your guys' vision, and I hope to see it unfold more clearly.
User avatar
belgear
Customer
 
Posts: 1212
Joined: Fri Feb 01, 2013 6:06 am

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Darkside » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:39 am

Sounds good...

Good to hear about the gluttony system being re-thought.

Ah, so you do follow those graphs too eh? :D

Yes, long live Salem!
User avatar
Darkside
 
Posts: 501
Joined: Sun Mar 03, 2013 5:29 pm
Location: Roanoke, NY

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby KitKat » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:39 am

jorb wrote:
(As for the forums, all "admins" will be removed, and I'll be looking over the present mod list and forum rules. If the mods make you cry in the future, you may now appeal to me, but please don't.)



YES!
long live Salem!

Image
Image
User avatar
KitKat
 
Posts: 117
Joined: Sun Apr 07, 2013 7:36 pm

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Dallane » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:41 am

Good to hear jorb. Now that pdox isn't hold you guys back you can make the game as it should be!
Please click this link for a better salem forum experience

TotalyMeow wrote: Claeyt's perspective of Salem and what it's about is very different from the devs and in many cases is completely the opposite of what we believe.
User avatar
Dallane
Moderator
 
Posts: 15179
Joined: Wed Aug 01, 2012 2:00 pm

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Bearcub » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:43 am

The only hope that you'd fix soon a problem with a splash damage from a weaker walls :(
Trade is the first step to the diplomacy.
Diplomacy is a tool for unification.
Then be honest with your customers to make new bonds!
User avatar
Bearcub
 
Posts: 408
Joined: Mon Dec 31, 2012 8:22 am
Location: Dalian, China

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Ruane » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:43 am

nice
Ruane
 
Posts: 19
Joined: Tue Apr 09, 2013 1:57 am

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby ya » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:45 am

Thank you.
Long live Salem!
ya
 
Posts: 8
Joined: Thu Jan 24, 2013 11:41 am

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby Yourgrandmother » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:46 am

Please remove the following moderators:

MagicManICT
colesie
Potjeh

They show nothing but negativity towards Salem and are a bad first impression to new players. Moderators who are politically motivated and show bias such as these 3 should also not be in any position of power.

That is all.
Yourgrandmother
 
Posts: 548
Joined: Thu Nov 08, 2012 12:34 am

Re: Game Development: Every Little... + Development Thoughts

Postby agentlemanloser » Thu Jun 06, 2013 4:50 am

If you are genuinely concerned with the minute-to-minute gameplay experience, the pulse, you would do well to consider implementing some form of a hunger/starvation and thirst/dehydration system. You would also do well to introduce many more aggressive wildlife/mobs, preferably in keeping with the Lovecraft theme. You should also make a minor change to the darkness code such that it actively pushes back against the light, encroaching slowly and making fluid and unpredictable borders, out of which more dangerous and aggressive beasties forage. There you have three ideas to increase minute-to-minute engagement, the first based in general survival, the second in travel, and the third in long-term strategy and the general evolution of a server. If you are still online, I am curious as to whether any of these ideas were/are on your development agenda, as they do seem obvious (one even exists in H&H).
User avatar
agentlemanloser
 
Posts: 93
Joined: Thu Mar 14, 2013 7:28 am

Next

Return to Announcements

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 15 guests