Salem 2018 Roadmap

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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Champie » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:17 am

Taipion wrote:
Champie wrote:Dude, I was talking about Juda. Jesus Christ, you are unhinged!

Why the hell do you not quote his post and instead my response to it?!


Fair point, but I thought it was obvious that Juda has been the one crying for 5 years. On the other hand you have been working hard to imporve the client, help people on the forums and generally encourage people to enjoy the game.

And yes, my post was just to troll Zodd. I am always looking for a way to bring him back to the forums in a rage :)

edit: the reason I quoted you and not him was because I was mimicking a conversation with you, replying to your reaction with a similar reaction. I have no desire to engage Juda.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby ZtyX » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:40 am

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nico54k9 wrote:Pretty sure I know the answer for this... but was there any info on where the devs went or what's happening with the game? Just wondering if it's even worth coming back to play.


Game is still playable and there is a decent population considering the lack of love from JC. JC has been focusing on family and his career but from conversations with different people he has still been working on different things. We hope to see his return at some point with some major updates. Marp is still around and Meow stepped down for several reasons. You should hop into discord and talk with community. The game is still the amazing game you played before and depending on when you last played there could be some new things to experience.


He needs to dedicate himself more to the development of the game instead of "family & career". Fact of the matter is that he is probably working a full time job and he can't be bothered working on the game because he's tired in the evening & "needs to spend time with his family".
The result is hundreds of disappointed players who keep checking here, but nothing happens.Year after year.

How about you sell the game then? Or how about you change your work situation to stop being full time?
This community is already providing him with a good amount of money from the store. But instead of working for that, he's just milking it while working to get EVEN MORE money from his "career" on the side. That's called greed.

I came here to check where the game is at and I find nothing from 2019. Despite the fact that we're in mid august. Now what the hell is that?


Stop being a entitled ***** and get over yourself basement dweller.

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I came here to check where the game is at and I find nothing from 2019. Despite the fact that we're in mid august. Now what the hell is that?


Well Jorb and Loftar already gave the game a 2nd go, back in 2014 when they sold it to Mortal Moments. As much I'd like to see someone else take it over, assuming JC would be even willing to do the same. Who in the heck of the current player-base or third parties would be interested, or would seriously put in the effort required. To put it blankly, even with good marketing and an active development this game is unlikely ever going to be as popular ever again. It'd be increasingly difficult to attract new players to some old java game from a decade ago, nor will you be able to get many veteran players back into it.


You didn't know the state of hnh before they returned to it. This game is 100% able to get people back.



Truth hurts, doesn't it?

Also, there's nothing wrong with being entitled. That's my job as a player. I am entitled by definition. My job is to pay, play and demand from the developers.
I'm not just going to sit by and shut my mouth, while waiting for crumbs to fall off the table. This game deserves more. So you can call me names as much as you want. I have a few names for you too, if you wanna go there.

To me it looks like:

- The developer of this game is ignoring the players.
- Ignoring his responsibility.
- Milking the game for profits, while earning more profits from some other programmer job to get rich
- Using all his energy on "family & career", while we have to sit here and wait for updates that never come.

He needs to pull himself together, do some work and give us some patches.

It's not acceptable for him to just disappear and leave hundreds of people waiting for such long periods of time.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Champie » Sun Aug 11, 2019 10:55 am

ZtyX wrote:It's not acceptable for him to just disappear and leave hundreds of people waiting for such long periods of time.


It's a ***** move and JC deserves whatever **** this community wants to fling at him. The person who should be most angry is Heffernan. I think his store purchases alone might have fully funded JC's kid's college fund by now.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Worm » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:24 pm

Honestly, just sell the game back to Seatribe (Jorb&Loftar) so they can pass to someone else, or sell it to someone who actually cares about Salem and wants to improve it. This game is left in a vegetative state for a such long time that I believe that JC's silence cannot be justified by any means no matter how "busy" he is, there is no goodwill intention of leaving the game to rot.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Judaism » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:46 pm

Worm wrote:Honestly, just sell the game back to Seatribe (Jorb&Loftar) so they can pass to someone else, or sell it to someone who actually cares about Salem and wants to improve it. This game is left in a vegetative state for a such long time that I believe that JC's silence cannot be justified by any means no matter how "busy" he is, there is no goodwill intention of leaving the game to rot.


Amen, but their ego has always been very high. They never removed or roll-backed patches the community hated. They instead straight up told us to soak it up and if we started whining more, it'd be even worse :lol:
True development has been dead since 2015, basically they gave this game a full year of proper development and ever since its been super bad, poorer since than Jorb and Loftar ever did.

In compensation for that, they have added more store items and such. Things which never were a thing for example raising the murder skill to insane levels, basically forcing to buy it. Then throw-away alts. Other than that, they added all the unique items which gave a serious boost to your gardening, farming, mining, carpeting etc...

So a lot more transactions for ''pay for convenience''. The first few years, they surely must have regained the development costs due to the fact that people would not even be in the top 10 with in-game purchases over $500.
Then they unbalanced all the raiding and pvp ****, focused on base-building and hermit skills and things to do for them. Added a flawed expedition mentality, never admitted any of their mistakes or their direction of the game. Now the game is broken on almost all aspects and the only logical thing to do would be a complete wipe with a new server alongside many new changes/tweaks to fix this game from the state they put it in.

Ofcourse none of the care-bears want that and since they are pretty much the only ones that remain to this date, it aint gonna happen, nor does any of this game motivate the devs anymore. All the people they interacted with have either quit, turned against them or moved on to something else by now. Its a vicious circle and making a similar move like Jorb & Loftar providing this game with another chance, will be highly unlikely due to most likely the ego.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Ronch » Sun Aug 11, 2019 5:47 pm

All of this self-consoling is heart melting. :oops:
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Taipion » Sun Aug 11, 2019 6:15 pm

Champie wrote:
Taipion wrote:
Champie wrote:Dude, I was talking about Juda. Jesus Christ, you are unhinged!

Why the hell do you not quote his post and instead my response to it?!


Fair point, but I thought it was obvious that Juda has been the one crying for 5 years. On the other hand you have been working hard to imporve the client, help people on the forums and generally encourage people to enjoy the game.

And yes, my post was just to troll Zodd. I am always looking for a way to bring him back to the forums in a rage :)

edit: the reason I quoted you and not him was because I was mimicking a conversation with you, replying to your reaction with a similar reaction. I have no desire to engage Juda.


Fair point, I could have seen that.

As to all the other stuff going around in this thread: inb4 JC is just staying away for all those delicious tears, I mean, that's what Salem is all about, isn't it?
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Dallane » Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:01 am

Worm wrote:Honestly, just sell the game back to Seatribe (Jorb&Loftar) so they can pass to someone else, or sell it to someone who actually cares about Salem and wants to improve it. This game is left in a vegetative state for a such long time that I believe that JC's silence cannot be justified by any means no matter how "busy" he is, there is no goodwill intention of leaving the game to rot.


This is how I know you are clueless. Jorb and loftar are still involved in the game and own a stake in it.

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- The developer of this game is ignoring the players.
- Ignoring his responsibility.
- Milking the game for profits, while earning more profits from some other programmer job to get rich
- Using all his energy on "family & career", while we have to sit here and wait for updates that never come.


Who are you? You haven't posted in 2 years.

He doesn't ignore anyone. Send him a message.
He has zero responsibility to you.
The money this game makes goes to the server.
Stop being an incel.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby ZtyX » Mon Aug 12, 2019 4:49 pm

Dallane wrote:
Who are you? You haven't posted in 2 years.

He doesn't ignore anyone. Send him a message.
He has zero responsibility to you.
The money this game makes goes to the server.
Stop being an incel.


I don't have to prove anything to you, but just for the record. I guess I've sunk a few thousand hours into the game.

Yes, he is ignoring everyone by not writing news and seriously working on the game.

Yes, he has absolute responsibility to me and the other players of this game because he is the lead developer on this game.
There's nobody else who can have this responsibility.

I don't believe that the server costs consume 100% of the cost.

Good job moderator, keep calling me names. Excellent community service.


And as you can read from some of the other posts, I'm not the only one who is criticizing JC.
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Re: Salem 2018 Roadmap

Postby Dallane » Tue Aug 13, 2019 1:42 pm

ZtyX wrote:I don't believe that the server costs consume 100% of the cost.

Good job moderator, keep calling me names. Excellent community service.


And as you can read from some of the other posts, I'm not the only one who is criticizing JC.


If you think he is keeping the game to turn a profit then you are ***** nuts. He is the same dude who hired two porn stars to make a Tribe propaganda video.

Thank you! However if you have a issue with moderation then you need to send complaints and concerns to TotalyMeow instead of posting about them. I'm not writing to you as a moderator, if i was then I would be using this color.

They are saying real ****. You are saying retarded ass things.
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