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Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Wed Jan 03, 2018 10:35 am
by Chrumps
trewka wrote:sugar + water + glass pot

That would be a nice thing to have.
Glutt points inferior to those of berry jubilee but doubled if used during coldsnap. Requires to be placed in stove for some time. Preservation time 14 days.

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:52 am
by JohnCarver
2.1.3 Patch Notes
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*Curious Grape Adjustment
*Q&Q Debuff now removes points on craving satisfies.
*Q&Q Debuff points now lower less through Gluttony.
*Gluttony reducers no longer improperly affecting expedition gluttony timers.

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:02 am
by grapefruitv
Does "whiffing" work same as hookah in a way of timing?
As in 24 hours start when you last tried to use it, not the last time it was effective?

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:15 am
by JohnCarver
grapefruitv wrote:Does "whiffing" work same as hookah in a way of timing?
As in 24 hours start when you last tried to use it, not the last time it was effective?


Indeed it does but you have to factor in server downtime.

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:46 am
by Taipion
JohnCarver wrote:2.1.3 Patch Notes
*Q&Q Debuff points now lower less through Gluttony.


Should have read "nigh nothing" instead of "less".

Have you considered that higher lvl chars can only drink about 2 flasks per day due to these changes?
(assuming frequent gluttoning AND doing 1 craving per day)

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 12:19 pm
by Nsuidara
Taipion wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:2.1.3 Patch Notes
*Q&Q Debuff points now lower less through Gluttony.


Should have read "nigh nothing" instead of "less".

Have you considered that higher lvl chars can only drink about 2 flasks per day due to these changes?
(assuming frequent gluttoning AND doing 1 craving per day)

but gluttony not remove this debuff? or remove totaly small amount ? (after update)

but change like "*Q&Q Debuff now removes points on craving satisfies." will be great, because i'm not all character made gluttony :)


I hear... craving was bonuses ? but now like replace gluttony (not 100% but still)

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 1:46 pm
by Zapt13
Nsuidara wrote:
I hear... craving was bonuses ? but now like replace gluttony (not 100% but still)


This is special for the Expedition as I understand it. But I agree, when cravings were first introduced they could be ignored without penalty. Now it seems ignoring them on the Expedition does at least inhibit player competiveness. Not sure if it's possible to prove that ignoring cravings would leave a character crippled on the Expedition.

Edited: quote nesting

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 2:26 pm
by Nsuidara
Zapt13 wrote:Not sure if it's possible to prove that ignoring cravings would leave a character crippled on the Expedition.

F&F x3
in prov http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Roasted_Pine_Nuts 0:05 time
in conc 0:15 time
I'm not wanna talk about meat ... how many give F&F - but I'm not mean about this
more like grapse + cravings :)
in prov not now... but in feature CHANGE ALL

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 5:25 pm
by JohnCarver
Taipion wrote:
Should have read "nigh nothing" instead of "less".

Have you considered that higher lvl chars can only drink about 2 flasks per day due to these changes?
(assuming frequent gluttoning AND doing 1 craving per day)


Indeed. Having 20+ buffs inbetween your gluttony rotations seems infinitely more balanced than the 200+ it was before as well as having the bonus added effect of making you choose the higher potions if for no other reason than to conserve Q&Q space.

Re: Patch 2.1.0: Warming up the Masons

PostPosted: Thu Jan 04, 2018 6:18 pm
by Rifmaster
JohnCarver wrote:
Taipion wrote:
Should have read "nigh nothing" instead of "less".

Have you considered that higher lvl chars can only drink about 2 flasks per day due to these changes?
(assuming frequent gluttoning AND doing 1 craving per day)


Indeed. Having 20+ buffs inbetween your gluttony rotations seems infinitely more balanced than the 200+ it was before as well as having the bonus added effect of making you choose the higher potions if for no other reason than to conserve Q&Q space.


Isn't the main drink that fills Q&Q tea and not potions? Atleast make tea fill less Q&Q :(