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Patch Warnings for Upcoming V1.2.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:21 am
by JohnCarver
Greetings Salemites,
Here are things I am considering that by creation of this thread you now have warning about.

*Toolbelts, Backpacks, and Mannequin issues have gone on for too long. Going to be addressing this sooner than later, however, my solution is to simply not have backpacks and toolbelts transfer. The 'problem' with this implementation is then there is an incentive to manually take off belts and equip slotted belts for min-maxing a civilian artifice bonus which defeats the purpose of the mannequin ease of use. Since I have wanted to add more diverse artifacts similar to the silver platter recently implemented which will begin a power creep of sorts I've decided that I will re-purpose all existing belts to either be tool belts or possibly aux. belts with other non-slotting functionality. This way, in ALL cases you do not want to transfer your belt similar to how in all cases you do not want to transfer your keys to a mannequin. Players are highly encouraged to cut up their belts and attempt to remove the artifacts from them prior to this change. Once belts lose their slots the artifacts in them will be destroyed.


*I may choose to change the ladder UP in the next patch. This may also mean that things near said ladder will get lost inside it, be destroyed, or otherwise have bad effects happen to them. Do not keep anything within a 3 tile radius of your ladders in your mines for awhile just to be safe.

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:23 am
by Judaism
Any estimates before when this needs to be done ?

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:24 am
by JohnCarver
Judaism wrote:Any estimates before when this needs to be done ?


I plan on pushing the mannequin changes WITHOUT the belt changes. But I said V2.0.0 to show that it will definitely be something I intend to put in for the next 'bigger' patch. I would say 7-37 days is your window.

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:37 am
by Tulgarath
JohnCarver wrote:
Judaism wrote:Any estimates before when this needs to be done ?


I plan on pushing the mannequin changes WITHOUT the belt changes. But I said V2.0.0 to show that it will definitely be something I intend to put in for the next 'bigger' patch. I would say 7-37 days is your window.


I love the window... will go thru my belts, thank you.

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:40 am
by MaxPlanck
Should I be worried about losing the tools in my master toolbelt with this change if I leave the tools in the belt or only belts that were originally for slotting?

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 4:44 am
by JohnCarver
Only belts that are for slotting are getting adjusted.

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:05 am
by jcwilk
Tulgarath wrote:I love the window...


+1, quality deving

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:07 am
by Taipion
I do welcome the changes to belts.

But I don't like how this plays out, first of all, removing slots from belts reduces all our gears efficiency by a fair amount, which will likely not be compensated by you through adjusting how much each artifice does...

Note: Considering the average number of slots we lose on our gear, I assume 10% number of slots, and you know the first slots take the best artifices, it would be good to buff all artifices by 10-15% (like, add +15% to each stat, rounded down).


On the other hand, I welcome more artifices even though it requires us to constantly redo all our equip to keep up as you add more stuff, still, on the above note, it would be good to somehow compensate the loss of slots as it would be a straight nerf to all clothing sets otherwise.

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 5:25 am
by TotalyMeow
Not to nitpick, but the objects you put in things are artifacts. The skill bonuses you get out of them are artifice. They maybe could have been better named. :roll:

Re: Patch Warnings for Upcoming V2.0.0

PostPosted: Sun Jan 10, 2016 6:43 am
by LOMS
JC, I doubt that you will left less slots in those belts then quantity of artifacts, that we are able to slot in them. So you could do this the hard, but more professional way - instead of deleting, just put all slotted artifacts in new belt's inventory.