Insanity!

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Re: Insanity!

Postby ToorimaSon » Sun May 31, 2015 9:14 am

JohnCarver wrote:
ToorimaSon wrote:we aren't looking for more things to give insanity.... we are looking for more things to get rid of it....... like a deletion of this whole last patch.

Request denied.


how about my own server to host and do what i want with it.

then i could bring back most of the old purity system, get rid of insanity and fix all the hitboxes.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby tomw84 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:15 am

JohnCarver wrote:However, we were very large fans of the game "Don't Starve" and always felt that Salem was and should always have been a game about survival.

I'm also great fan of Don't Starve, and because of that when i want to catch butterflies, plant them as flowers, and gather them again You know what i do? I PLAY DON'T STARVE!

Dunno how about You, but in real life i dont chill out by catching butterflies, and gathering flowers, maybe my daughter is, as she is 4 years old. Are You seriously lack of ideas so much that You take them from different game?
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Re: Insanity!

Postby NeiroShop » Sun May 31, 2015 9:20 am

tomw84 wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:However, we were very large fans of the game "Don't Starve" and always felt that Salem was and should always have been a game about survival.

I'm also great fan of Don't Starve, and because of that when i want to catch butterflies, plant them as flowers, and gather them again You know what i do? I PLAY DON'T STARVE!

Dunno how about You, but in real life i dont chill out by catching butterflies, and gathering flowers, maybe my daughter is, as she is 4 years old. Are You seriously lack of ideas so much that You take them from different game?



I dont mind that they do in fact decrease insanity a little bit. (Im sure there are people who enjoy that they should be rewarded as well) However I'd like to think that most normal chores etc in salem would reward insanity decrease. Making normal gameplay not make you mad. Things like Bloodmoon, Darkness creatures & other bad stuff making you insane i just think of an added flavour. Not a huge fan of the no afk thing but i can understand it. (If they just wanted to punish criminals just make the insanity go up only when they have criminal debuff...)

The ideas are sound the implementation is not is what im saying. Plz JC dont turn into Jorbtar!
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Nikixos » Sun May 31, 2015 9:30 am

tomw84 wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:However, we were very large fans of the game "Don't Starve" and always felt that Salem was and should always have been a game about survival.

I'm also great fan of Don't Starve, and because of that when i want to catch butterflies, plant them as flowers, and gather them again You know what i do? I PLAY DON'T STARVE!

Dunno how about You, but in real life i dont chill out by catching butterflies, and gathering flowers, maybe my daughter is, as she is 4 years old. Are You seriously lack of ideas so much that You take them from different game?


Have you COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN that those methods are not effective and aimed to very EARLY game? TOBACCO MY FRIEND. THAT'S THE REASON INSANITY IS IN.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby NeiroShop » Sun May 31, 2015 9:34 am

Nikixos wrote:
tomw84 wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:However, we were very large fans of the game "Don't Starve" and always felt that Salem was and should always have been a game about survival.

I'm also great fan of Don't Starve, and because of that when i want to catch butterflies, plant them as flowers, and gather them again You know what i do? I PLAY DON'T STARVE!

Dunno how about You, but in real life i dont chill out by catching butterflies, and gathering flowers, maybe my daughter is, as she is 4 years old. Are You seriously lack of ideas so much that You take them from different game?


Have you COMPLETELY FORGOTTEN that those methods are not effective and aimed to very EARLY game? TOBACCO MY FRIEND. THAT'S THE REASON INSANITY IS IN.


So do you have tobacco? How many days with no speed til the field is ready? How much insanity do you have time to gather during that time?
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Nikixos » Sun May 31, 2015 9:36 am

When i have my fields make sure to buy from my stall for 500 silver each since you are a good for nothing for not planting yourself ;)
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Re: Insanity!

Postby Procne » Sun May 31, 2015 9:38 am

More ways to reduce insanity:
1. finding a gem during sifting
2. using bible, candle, flower arrangement, game board, colored marbles (unless it's the last use and you lose your marbles, which will greatly increase insanity ¦] ), windborne kite, wood knot, birchbark origami, soaps, lumberwood bonsai, crucifix as inspirationals
3. praying in a church
4. roasting meat (cuts + steaks) in a campfire (BBQ chillin). Roasting meat shreds should increase insanity instead

More ways to increase insanity:
1. harvesting pumpkins before the final growth stage
2. having more than 128 items in inventory. Or just not having empty inventory for longer than 4 hours
3. dissecting frogs
4. mining without a source of light nearby (helmet, campfire etc.)
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Re: Insanity!

Postby NeiroShop » Sun May 31, 2015 9:39 am

Nikixos wrote:When i have my fields make sure to buy from my stall for 500 silver each since you are a good for nothing for not planting yourself ;)


Where does it say i have not planted tobacco? I didnt think insanity & hallucinations would set in IRL. GG JC.
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Re: Insanity!

Postby vysen » Sun May 31, 2015 9:53 am

Is it a bug that you get two limed hides off of one hide or intended?
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Re: Insanity!

Postby tomw84 » Sun May 31, 2015 9:54 am

NeiroShop wrote:I dont mind that they do in fact decrease insanity a little bit. (Im sure there are people who enjoy that they should be rewarded as well) However I'd like to think that most normal chores etc in salem would reward insanity decrease. Making normal gameplay not make you mad.


Don't get me wrong - i like the idea of insanity as overall, but not copied from "Don't starve" as it doesnt fit Salem story. We are playing pilgrims from XVI-XVII century -> a society that was highly faith based, not some "nightmare reality" like Don't starve, so i would make it this way. There was no butterfly catching those days -> people were hardworking and improving their faith was making them happy. To fit the story i would like to see insanity as a result of getting away from god (and opossite for witches). Attending church, burrying corpses, lighting candles/putting flowers on graves, praying, producing crosses, wearing crosses, seeing result of hardwork, building new churches, spreading god's word, reading bible's... etc. That are the ways that should make non-witch characters less insane, not some butterfly catching... + as someone said before - using some inspirationals, f.e. toys.
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