Safety and Defences

[darnokpl]

Thank you everybody. Looks like the problem was not in the game. Problem is that we are just a bunch of noobs who don't know this game at all. :p
I would like to ask moderators to delete this topic. It doesn't contain any useful ideas or information.
However, maybe make information about BB and brazier more obvious? I think Salem lacks a tip, that tells all that stuff about criminal acts, BB and draining. Prob, it will be a good idea to add such tip when player picks Settling skill.
For example, my settlement don't like to go for crime actions. We don't farm Cloaks & Daggers stuff, so we know nothing about BB being drained while doing such things. I think, we are not alone with such views, players must know how to protect themselves ASAP, so why don't add helping tip when ppl get aссess to stake claims?

It is crafting, perma death and exploring mmo mate:P

[MagicManICT]

However, maybe make information about BB and brazier more obvious? I think Salem lacks a tip, that tells all that stuff about criminal acts, BB and draining. Prob, it will be a good idea to add such tip when player picks Settling skill.

Salem lacks a lot of "tips". Sometimes that's on purpose (having all of that crap inside the game is just plain annoying), sometimes it's something overlooked (some game mechanics are complex or easy to miss and need some sort of general, easy to find explanation), so it's good to post about these things and make a well considered suggestion. However, just because a person has played a thousand and one different games doesn't mean your exempt from picking up a manual and reading it. In the case of Salem, no there isn't a thorough manual yet. The wiki is in pretty good shape and getting better every week, though.

[staxjax]

I sure hope your friends decide to play again, once you share with them your newly found knowledge about defenses in Salem.

[baronbowden]

Only thread I found about this topic. Wanted to resurrect. Forum mods please split if it should be new.

Current brazier system 2 crimes before they activate. Just leads to too much abuse.
For example

1) Group of 6 each person breaks down 1 layer of wall etc etc they can get into the middle of a claim with all the braziers never firing a shot.
2) Person could be assaulting you in your base, or someone kinned in your base and braziers never fire.

I think the current system is to lenient when it comes to determining what crimes will cause an activation.
Ideally they should activate as soon as waste is period.
Also people should be able to memorize characters and as soon as they enter your claim territory braziers would know to hostile them from being memorized.

B

[darnokpl]

Current brazier system 2 crimes before they activate. Just leads to too much abuse.

Only one problem I can imagine it is when there is gap between wall layers.
After bashing 1 wall raiders can walk 24+ tiles away from first scent and then bash second wall.
They will leave 2 scents, but not in range of single brazier.

If you have more ideas please let me know:)

[baronbowden]

completely agree. It is just way way too open to abuse.

The obvious solution is they should just trigger as soon as crime a waste or battery happens and the entire claim should aggro the offending char.


I mean in all honesty the logic that the 2 acts is there to protect noobs from getting burned on... just doesn't hold water. People arnt running around attacking walls when they see braziers when they are new for giggles.. and if they are.... its a good lesson to learn early on:P

[Dallane]

you know xpass counts as the 1st offense right?

maybe if you guys had an actual town layout you wouldn't be crying

[darnokpl]

completely agree. It is just way way too open to abuse.

The obvious solution is they should just trigger as soon as crime a waste or battery happens and the entire claim should aggro the offending char.


I mean in all honesty the logic that the 2 acts is there to protect noobs from getting burned on... just doesn't hold water. People arnt running around attacking walls when they see braziers when they are new for giggles.. and if they are.... its a good lesson to learn early on:P

Idea with battery scent is interesting if you are defending your claim, but from aggressor point of view...
single defender can run forever around his base and you will be under fire from braziers, so there will be little chance to kill him and huge chance to run out of black bile, even if you got advantage 5vs1.

[darnokpl]

you know xpass counts as the 1st offense right?

maybe if you guys had an actual town layout you wouldn't be crying

Who is crying?

And tresspass doesn't activate braziers only summonable scents do.

[staxjax]

After bashing 1 wall raiders can walk 24+ tiles away from first scent and then bash second wall.
They will leave 2 scents, but not in range of single brazier.

The claim keeps track of the 'crime rate' of each character commiting crimes on the claim, not the individual braziers. If you have one claim, fully defended with braziers, then they cant just walk '24 tiles' away to avoid triggering braziers.