Chrumps wrote:Taipion wrote:... as to your other complaints to what I said, I do not find them reasonable.
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Why not present some good arguments instead of ....that?
Totally good argument and not insulting at all.
Yes, you are right, unlike in your comment there is no insult here.
Chrumps wrote:Taipion wrote:you could even go as far as laying out a town with "frame" pclaims, probably owned by the mayor, to put in as frames for the actual personal areas,
That will force sharing mayor account if more than one person is allowed to manage instead of properly using existing permission mechanics.
So you suggest sharing accounts for rights management? ...interesting.
This does not demand anything like this, any more than having one proper pclaim does, though offers all the micro management and fine tuning one could ask for.
Chrumps wrote:Taipion wrote:so you can give someone temporary permissions to put up and expand a pclaim without the risk of him expanding the pclaim in a way that would open the town for attacks or claiming over things that do not belong to that person and so on...
This is not a concern at all. It can be always eminent domained.
Yea, unless someone uses 10k or more for whatever reason, going well beyond what most towns are capable to ED by their auth.
Chrumps wrote:Taipion wrote:There may very well be more elegant solutions, but not without a major rework of all the claiming and rights management mechanics, whereas this would (hopefully) be only a small thing to do.
And as one can see with other things in this thread, if people start to think of how to do it better, the result tends to be overly complicated or non-intuitive.
The primary issue with pclaim management is having two lists of members, one under kin and other under tclaim. Having the same info in two place allows for mistakes and leave space the well-known attack by kinning and abusing permissions to white.
I do not get why you are pushing worse solution and using it as a proof that things cannot be done in a satisfactory way.
So you mange important permission over "white"?! ...maybe you should go and explore town management for a good while before making suggestions here.
You try to turn my words around, but fortunately not very good,
as I said, my proposed solution would be (hopefully) doable without much work by the devs, and available shortly, and idk what you believe, but having at least that now is better than having a fancy solution in 2 years,
AND it does not obstruct a "fancy solution in 2 years" even though you say otherwise.