Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Forum for suggesting changes to Salem.

Should Gluttony be Evaluated?

Stahp It! Leave it alone, its fine and its only a VOCAL minority who don't like it.
17
17%
Too much change is bad. Keep tweaking it and hopefully one day we hit a good place. The core system is fine.
42
42%
Make major changes to the existing system, like removing restores. Find new ways to force variety without removing the whole thing.
12
12%
Remove the whole thing and spend your time on making Cravings the new system.
17
17%
Remove the whole thing and go with the Inspirational Idea. A simple reason to make all the stuff, without making everything so dang complicated.
11
11%
 
Total votes : 99

Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby Nsuidara » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:20 pm

bergamoth87 wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:
bergamoth87 wrote:- Removing glutony and replacing it with Carvings only..

I don't like this idea, because im (now) not play so often... and i ignore totaly craving because it's not worth for me spend time... for 1 or 1 each bile point...



Exactly, but the idea is to IMPROVE Cravings, not leaving as it is right now. With sets/buffs etc you could get "around" the same you get from glutony sessions. Just that it woundt be a grindfest for 1.000 of the same materials every 5/10/15/30 days at it is now..

Yes, i read - but still i'm not like this
1) because some recipe food its crazy
2) this change again it will make a big difference between normal player and no-life (when now no-life can made strong alt too... but normal player have own speed prepare this 500 biles, not depends wait for eat food ...)
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby nosfirebird » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:36 pm

for the people who are saying remove gluttony and replace with cravings please go make 30 crime alts raise them to 600blue/black with only cravings then come back and say that. btw please remember that you lose them after use and have to remake them.
as it is cravings are ok as a kind of "o hey i got that somewhere lets go get a extra level right quick"
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby bergamoth87 » Wed Jun 13, 2018 1:32 am

nosfirebird wrote:for the people who are saying remove gluttony and replace with cravings please go make 30 crime alts raise them to 600blue/black with only cravings then come back and say that. btw please remember that you lose them after use and have to remake them.
as it is cravings are ok as a kind of "o hey i got that somewhere lets go get a extra level right quick"


Again, not JUST remove glutony, but ALSO greatly improve Cravings, so it would be possible to increase it fast, but not with a huge grind of the same materials.
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby nosfirebird » Wed Jun 13, 2018 2:09 am

bergamoth87 wrote:
nosfirebird wrote:for the people who are saying remove gluttony and replace with cravings please go make 30 crime alts raise them to 600blue/black with only cravings then come back and say that. btw please remember that you lose them after use and have to remake them.
as it is cravings are ok as a kind of "o hey i got that somewhere lets go get a extra level right quick"


Again, not JUST remove glutony, but ALSO greatly improve Cravings, so it would be possible to increase it fast, but not with a huge grind of the same materials.

you would still have the same issue that cravings given even if its driven down to days to hours with high humours you would have to set a timer for ea craving. did that with concord for 3 days and quit because of it.
glutting is fine the way it is as long as tbf's remain in game now if the tbf where to be pulled then slowing glutting down to a few points every few hours would be fine.
new players arnt quitting due to throw away alts(if they have a few tp's and a brazier or 2 they wont be raided). they are quitting because most everything is tedious boredom chores and once they realize this they quit playing
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby JoanXena » Wed Jun 13, 2018 3:42 am

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The point of Salem is to make your own "point of Salem." If you cannot find something to do other than the menial chores then quite frankly you lack imagination

chores are a means to an end
WoW has daily quests
salem has sticking things in animal's bums every 24 ours (sometimes more!!)
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby nosfirebird » Wed Jun 13, 2018 5:59 am

JoanXena wrote:=\
The point of Salem is to make your own "point of Salem." If you cannot find something to do other than the menial chores then quite frankly you lack imagination

chores are a means to an end
WoW has daily quests
salem has sticking things in animal's bums every 24 ours (sometimes more!!)


the end being raiding/pvp and the person is wanting to remove glutting and only increase biles through cravings. that would increase the grind way past any sane persons threshold. unless tbf's are removed then it would be okish. still would suck but these types of idea's that increase tedium jc loves for some reason thats why im focusing on this new players idea.
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Re: Gluttony Rework Mega-Thread

Postby JoanXena » Wed Jun 13, 2018 7:21 am

nosfirebird wrote:
JoanXena wrote:=\
The point of Salem is to make your own "point of Salem." If you cannot find something to do other than the menial chores then quite frankly you lack imagination

chores are a means to an end
WoW has daily quests
salem has sticking things in animal's bums every 24 ours (sometimes more!!)


the end being raiding/pvp and the person is wanting to remove glutting and only increase biles through cravings. that would increase the grind way past any sane persons threshold. unless tbf's are removed then it would be okish. still would suck but these types of idea's that increase tedium jc loves for some reason thats why im focusing on this new players idea.
yeah removing gluttony would be a bad idea
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