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Re: Gluttony

Postby MaxPlanck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:33 pm

Ignore the part about it being "old". Tell me why the current system is "broken" and I might consider what you are saying.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby Nsuidara » Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:46 pm

MaxPlanck wrote:Ignore the part about it being "old". Tell me why the current system is "broken" and I might consider what you are saying.

- many recipes, they are useless
- many groups of food - they must exists it because here exists debuff - it is totally unnecessary (that part Hungry System work)
- too many subprocesses to produce food, hunt + fieds + garden + boiled + bake etc. in low-rate food...
- contrived - we need something simpler
last one It's difficult to balance
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Re: Gluttony

Postby MaxPlanck » Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:27 pm

So what you are saying is we need to just change recipes of the lower tier foods.

No need to revamp the whole system into something else just because of that.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby Dallane » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:03 pm

Nsuidara wrote: aids


I got full blown dog aids just reading this. Like others have said it hurts the system more than it helps.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby JohnCarver » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:04 pm

Nsuidara wrote:- many recipes, they are useless


I have challenged players on numerous occasions to show me the unbalance or uselessness of recipes. I now pass that torch to you.

Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby Nsuidara » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:19 pm

JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

You are right I am just not experienced enough to find any shortcomings but I feel that perhaps somebody who is a better player than me can do so.
i hope they try because it is too hard for me to figure out and i just comment on how i feel without knowing how to fix.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby lachlaan » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:20 pm

JohnCarver wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:- many recipes, they are useless


I have challenged players on numerous occasions to show me the unbalance or uselessness of recipes. I now pass that torch to you.

Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.


Challenge accepted, will edit after i have dinner. I think the sheer amount of recipes makes it daunting to try and formulate a coherent assessment. Also i have an issue formatting legible posts
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Re: Gluttony

Postby Judaism » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:28 pm

Nsuidara wrote:really - we don't need a lot of recipes


I very much agree so, its overcomplicated and a fair share of the current recipes are mind-blowing pointless. A craving system even with the full use of wine does not solve the issue.
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Re: Gluttony

Postby nosfirebird » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:29 pm

Nsuidara wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

Why i shoud do this ?
Example. Bajgiels vs vs Tenderboiled Terrine + Slow Roast ?
and you will nerf Bajgiels ?

You can only feel shame.
I will not play your buckwheat - where i show RECIPE and you will nerf it
Do you know the way ?

Except one food ALL Domesticated Meat it's usless.

Player focus for food where here its low things to do.
Food where need 2-3 tier plants from fields + plants for garden + for meat or combine this... player choose where it's small work to do...

the whole category is pretty much worthless i glutted 1 time with dom meat and wont do it again there are no ok restores argo eggs are a severe timesink to farm and candy is worthless at 50/50 have to eat 5 of them to restore id suggest argo eggs go 40/80 and candy go 30/80
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Re: Gluttony

Postby Nsuidara » Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:45 pm

nosfirebird wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

Why i shoud do this ?
Example. Bajgiels vs vs Tenderboiled Terrine + Slow Roast ?
and you will nerf Bajgiels ?

You can only feel shame.
I will not play your buckwheat - where i show RECIPE and you will nerf it
Do you know the way ?

Except one food ALL Domesticated Meat it's usless.

Player focus for food where here its low things to do.
Food where need 2-3 tier plants from fields + plants for garden + for meat or combine this... player choose where it's small work to do...

the whole category is pretty much worthless i glutted 1 time with dom meat and wont do it again there are no ok restores argo eggs are a severe timesink to farm and candy is worthless at 50/50 have to eat 5 of them to restore id suggest argo eggs go 40/80 and candy go 30/80

It's right
Example, Berries wasn't good food ethier, now JC implement "Players now get refunded hte Jar when consuming Cranberry Sauce." before was usless, but still player can't produce Sugar :P
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