Town-owned transport

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Town-owned transport

Postby Chrumps » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:43 pm

In a bigger towns moving around the area takes significant time. I would like to see a town transport which allows movement within town-claimed area.

As for historical justification, see wikipedia entry about horsebus or omnibus for the first public transport line ran by Blaise Pascal since 1662, though not on American soil.

The idea concerns a town-owned transport network that is is similar in it's structure and construction mechanics to walls, with corner posts being counterparts of 'tram' stops (waypoints) and wall segments being track segments counterparts.
Building of the network is started by placing a starting waypoint (stop). Extending the track is possible only from a stop or from existing track. Waypoints should be wider than the track in order to be accessible even if the track is built on all sides of it. Using the transport begins at one waypoint and ends in the neighbouring one. A stop offers a flower menu with options like 'Travel East', Travel South' and 'Extend North', 'Extend West' assuming that the particular waypoint has track connected at eastern and southern side.
Tracks must be passable for players, carts and animals. There is no such requirement for stops, but it would be convenient if they are at least passable in the way a bed is passable. Waypoints and tracks shall have a collision box versus other structures.
If the track is broken the travel ends at break point with % damage to biles.
Using travel shall consume small amount of black bile.
The tracks can be only operational on town claimed terrain. Tracks not covered by town claim count as break in the track.
Both tracks and stops drain authority from the bell at a constant rate per day. The transport is free for town members but not free for other players.
Alternatively, there could be an option to set fees separately for town members and non-members or by kin colour.
Fare is is paid at the moment of starting travel. Silver goes to the town mayor account, most likely after deducting hefty tax. This will allow towns to establish transport for general public and make silver from it.
Access management can be done by placing pclaims over waypoints.
Price per track segment should be around the price of brickwall in order to make longer lines viable. Perhaps 2 pig iron bars per segment.
Price of a waypoint can be significantly higher in the range of several thousands silver.

- on a longer line it is possible to TBF part of the line and break it without town members noticing and ambush travellers then.
(being able to place a smaller TBF, that is more stealthy, would be nice)
- it is possible that the traveller has no permissions to the claim at the other end of the track, it is possible that people would actively promote such lines.
- A single waypoint cannot be walled in. Only whole networks can be walled in. That may lead to creating vulnerabilities in towns.
- Staying on tracks when the transport is used should result in serious blood damage.
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby Dallane » Mon Jan 29, 2018 9:52 pm

Chrumps wrote: since 1662, though not on American soil.

Services ceased after 15 years and this isn't something we would see in colonial times.
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby Ghoul » Mon Jan 29, 2018 10:54 pm

Realak wrote:You guys are treating this game like it is a pvp esport or something and not the retarded version of farmville it is.
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby Ofisat » Mon Jan 29, 2018 11:01 pm

Really like this idea. Being able to build some transport system sounds very interesting!
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby grimkid » Wed Jan 31, 2018 10:16 am

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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby Lusewing » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:07 pm

I kinda enjoyed the old H&H path stones (I forget what they are/were called) You would basicly click on a signpost thing and your character would then follow a set path without you having to direct them. Great for getting from A-B with much less fuss. Good times.
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby MaxPlanck » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:13 pm

Autopathing H&H stones :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: JC said no autopathsies.
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby Heffernan » Wed Jan 31, 2018 8:36 pm

MaxPlanck wrote:Autopathing H&H stones :arrow: :arrow: :arrow: JC said no autopathsies.

*autoplanting :P
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby gustavohvg » Wed Jan 31, 2018 9:16 pm


I think he said "no autopaths" thinking about combat, exploration, and botters.

Inside a town wall this doesn't apply. They just need to make 20 seconds to be able to enter the transport.

Well it does apply for botters but the botter can just bot walking through known space anyway
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Re: Town-owned transport

Postby riker88 » Sat Feb 03, 2018 9:50 am

Stage coaches to other destinations, I like it. Like the roads in Haven and Hearth.
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