Salem

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:28 pm**

MaxPlanck wrote:Remove tobacco because you in particular don't need to use it? You do know that tobacco is used to remove madness levels don't you?

Personally I just use a trumpet to avoid ever getting madness levels but the only thing I usually need it for is when I happen to be online during a bloodmoon and get 2 lvls off of it.

Teddys are much cheaper, easier to make and work at 100% efficiency when you sleep. Everyone logs off so sleep and its gone.

Even you admit to not needing the use of tobacco.

And there is other ways to remove maddness, besides the Teddy,trumpet, or tobacco. But I won't go into that here.

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 7:41 pm**

Anyone who has played long enough knows the best use for tobacco

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:09 pm**

As long as there are more silver sinks then i would agree tobacco selling to NPC stall would be nice

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 9:43 pm**

matan002 wrote:As long as there are more silver sinks then i would agree tobacco selling to NPC stall would be nice

Posted: **Tue Feb 07, 2017 10:03 pm**

Shadow86 wrote:
MaxPlanck wrote:Remove tobacco because you in particular don't need to use it? You do know that tobacco is used to remove madness levels don't you?

Personally I just use a trumpet to avoid ever getting madness levels but the only thing I usually need it for is when I happen to be online during a bloodmoon and get 2 lvls off of it.

Teddys are much cheaper, easier to make and work at 100% efficiency when you sleep. Everyone logs off so sleep and its gone.

Even you admit to not needing the use of tobacco.

And there is other ways to remove maddness, besides the Teddy,trumpet, or tobacco. But I won't go into that here.

Trumpet doesn't remove madness, I was saying I use it to remove insanity to avoid gaining madness levels. if you are talking about the hookah as the other alternative(which can only be used once a day) but thats once a day and being lazy about madness will net you 4 madness lvls a day of playing.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:03 am**

Shadow86 wrote:
MaxPlanck wrote:Remove tobacco because you in particular don't need to use it? You do know that tobacco is used to remove madness levels don't you?

Personally I just use a trumpet to avoid ever getting madness levels but the only thing I usually need it for is when I happen to be online during a bloodmoon and get 2 lvls off of it.

Teddys are much cheaper, easier to make and work at 100% efficiency when you sleep. Everyone logs off so sleep and its gone.

Even you admit to not needing the use of tobacco.

And there is other ways to remove maddness, besides the Teddy,trumpet, or tobacco. But I won't go into that here.

You also have to consider the people who have crime alts they keep online 24/7 to avoid the stocks. They use tobacco to avoid madness death.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 1:51 am**

as in that is justification for an entire mechanic?

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:11 am**

Originally, tobacco was meant to be the only way to reduce Madness. That's the reason it's in the game. Personally, I would like to see removal of the hookah and teddy bears, but there was too much whining when it was tobacco only.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 2:31 am**

TotalyMeow wrote:Originally, tobacco was meant to be the only way to reduce Madness. That's the reason it's in the game. Personally, I would like to see removal of the hookah and teddy bears, but there was too much whining when it was tobacco only.

Yes I remember, it had a purpose then, now it just is like the step child threw in the corner, except for crime alts. I would prefer a change in mechanic to make tobacco perhaps more desirable for the masses, or eliminate as you say the others

I almost forgot, translation for the masses, since most anyones ideas are shot down except their own.

Posted: **Thu Feb 09, 2017 11:08 am**

TotalyMeow wrote:Originally, tobacco was meant to be the only way to reduce Madness. That's the reason it's in the game. Personally, I would like to see removal of the hookah and teddy bears, but there was too much whining when it was tobacco only.

If you increased the chance of tobaco being effective on lower levels of insanity i could see removing teddy and hookah as a valid option. But, once i went through over 30 puffs on lvl 1 madness just to get rid of it.
And yes, you can get lucky and lose it on a single puff, but you can also have 30 puffs streak where its not effective. So untill thats rebalanced teddy bears and hookah are only valid options for low levels on madness in my opinion.

Salem

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