Providence Compliment for Ark

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Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby DeepSixed » Sun Jun 12, 2016 2:58 am

Suggesting an Expedition type 'ARK' for providence to begin a new Expedition. Making ships for a new venture won't be easy... lots of wood/cloth/rope/etc...

Exploring new worlds is expensive... need the support/tax of the populace.

Let's see a new milestone put down for Providence... and see who can complete first... Popham (returning animals) or Providence (start a new Expedition?)

If Popham fails to finish before Providence 'expedition ark' is completed then the goal is delayed, nobody wins, and the goal is restarted on a new world! All gains from Popham are nullified. (3-4 month endeavor...12 months later...and you still have not finished... deserve whatever you get. )

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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby Dallane » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:01 am

Sounds like ****.

Expeditions are designed to showcase a certain theme. Having us build a useless building in provi doesn't really do anything other than open a server. Then you will be back to complaining about it.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby DeepSixed » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:05 am

I clarified my intent ( edited )... if you still feel that way... oh well.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby Dallane » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:05 am

NM I see your edit and this idea got a TON worse. wow.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby DeepSixed » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:10 am

Dallane wrote:Sounds like ****.

Expeditions are designed to showcase a certain theme. Having us build a useless building in provi doesn't really do anything other than open a server. Then you will be back to complaining about it.


And Popham expo was about animals... but to bring them back to Providence required an Ark seemingly nobody was willing to build... 12 mos and going.

However, every time this game opens a new server... we see a resurgence of old/new players... in that way the original intent of Expedition Servers 3-4 month life span made a HUGE amount of common sense.

I'm tactfully trying to point out there are more Providence Regulars than Popham regulars... and sticking by the seemingly dead ARK on Popham as a measure of change without a HUGE influx of contributes will remain a dead issue.


We need more folks on board... and they just don't exist as is. A new server might bring in more folks... where trying to keep Popham alive is an act of desperation... as I see it.

(But then you'd have to screw over Darworth and his promise of animals to all those folks who QUIT Popham to get easy animals that bet on him winning (someday). And now there's rumor he will revamp the PVP system... so you can't screw him over... )
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby TotalyMeow » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:26 am

Expeditions are funded by His Majesty the King, you don't have to build the ship that takes you there.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby Dallane » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:29 am

DeepSixed wrote:
Dallane wrote:Sounds like ****.

Expeditions are designed to showcase a certain theme. Having us build a useless building in provi doesn't really do anything other than open a server. Then you will be back to complaining about it.


And Popham expo was about animals... but to bring them back to Providence required an Ark seemingly nobody was willing to build... 12 mos and going.

However, every time this game opens a new server... we see a resurgence of old/new players... in that way the original intent of Expedition Servers 3-4 month life span made a HUGE amount of common sense.

I'm tactfully trying to point out there are more Providence Regulars than Popham regulars... and sticking by the seemingly dead ARK on Popham as a measure of change without a HUGE influx of contributes will remain a dead issue.


We need more folks on board... and they just don't exist as is. A new server might bring in more folks... where trying to keep Popham alive is an act of desperation... as I see it.

(But then you'd have to screw over Darworth and his promise of animals to all those folks who QUIT Popham to get easy animals that bet on him winning (someday). And now there's rumor he will revamp the PVP system... so you can't screw him over... )


#1 stop being a total idiot.

#2 the server could of easily ending within the 4-6 months that they planned if someone would of put the work in to make their witch and find the statues

#3 the ark could of been finished within the first 3 months of the server if people worked together but apparently no one had the bright idea to message people saying "hey i'll provide x amount of this item if you can work on x". John went through the logs to see the available materials and the industries to see how to make the ark.

#4 New servers are only a temp fix to your imaginary population problem. The pop is stable and has been since MM took over.

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Why do people think that building the ark is going to screw over darwoth at all? The ark doesn't affect him in the slightest bit.

You shouldn't listen to rumors and should address that with the devs if you are so concerned about it.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby DeepSixed » Sun Jun 12, 2016 3:50 am

Dallane wrote:
Expeditions are designed to showcase a certain theme. Having us build a useless building doesn't really do anything other than open a server. Then you will be back to complaining about it.


So the Ark is a useless building? I would agree at this point. The problem is your willingness to let it continue beyond your current judgement.

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#1 stop being a total ***** idiot.


That perception- you know more than I... calling me an idiot is like calling your child or someone who knows nothing about the current development an idiot. We can't all be part of the 'in-crowd'

Dallane wrote:#2 the server could of easily ending within the 4-6 months that they planned if someone would of put the work in to make their witch and find the statues



Again- it didn't happen. So why should it continue? Folks are continuing to leverage the quick growth cycle and you are knowingly allowing it to happen. You are knowing, wlllingly, ***** over the balance of ability and growth because you are lazy... seemingly.

Dallane wrote:
#3 the ark could of been finished within the first 3 months of the server if people worked together but apparently no one had the bright idea to message people saying "hey i'll provide x amount of this item if you can work on x". John went through the logs to see the available materials and the industries to see how to make the ark.



See #2; If there's no interest... how does prolonging it make it better? The game is stable... which is to say there's nobody new playing Popham and if they aren't going to finish it in 30 days... can you extrapolate based on current contributions how long it will take to finish? I'm sure there are some smart follks out there who can figure it out!

Dallane wrote:#4 New servers are only a temp fix to your imaginary population problem. The pop is stable and has been since MM took over.



It's only temporary fix because JC keeps failing to maintain on the schedule HE created. How about living with the word... and if nobody wins... nobody wins... and the goal is recreated.

Even my own frustration- wouldn't matter a damn- if the Expedition with its uber stat growth had died after 4 months. There'd be no 1500 stat toons that could appear on Providence; but after 12+ mos... there WILL be. Thanks for Dev laziness.

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Edit:
Why do people think that building the ark is going to screw over darwoth at all? The ark doesn't affect him in the slightest bit.

You shouldn't listen to rumors and should address that with the devs if you are so concerned about it.


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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby DeepSixed » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:16 am

TotalyMeow wrote:Expeditions are funded by His Majesty the King, you don't have to build the ship that takes you there.



But maybe we should be allowed to express our interest in making one!

Surely if we were completely enamored of Popham...we'd all be there already...no?

Sorry- many were...but they became suicidal on Darworth's promise of giving up animals on his success

He can't fail then?... Some tacit agreement with Devs that the server will survive until he's ready to finish it. (That's what it looks like to me who's been around since it started and before) .. how many folks will never play again after going under his sword (etc)? Or is it you are too craven and pathetic or tell Darworth all his deals are null and void b/c he failed to finish in the time allotment. It's past time to start anew on a new server.


Nothing hurts this game more than Dev failing to make good on his promises... the first one was the short term of expedition server.

Please... it was never intended to exist this long...

Going on it's only going to cause more issues.
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Re: Providence Compliment for Ark

Postby Nsuidara » Sun Jun 12, 2016 4:22 am

I'm sorry but I agree with DeepSixed.
The premise of the expedition was so with it will last 1-3 months and not one year...
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