Animals

[DarkNacht]

The end of the server is not holding up much of anything.
Its holding up who ever finishes the arc or ends the server, and who ever they sees fit, getting animals on Prov. As Popham ending only really effects whoever bothers to put in the time to build the arc or end the server it really shouldn't matter to anyone else when it ends.

[Dallane]

The end of the server is not holding up much of anything.
Its holding up who ever finishes the arc or ends the server, and who ever they sees fit, getting animals on Prov. As Popham ending only really effects whoever bothers to put in the time to build the arc or end the server it really shouldn't matter to anyone else when it ends.

Building the ark does NOT end the server! Only the witch is the one who ends the server. The Ark is just the option to get animals back on provi.

Also flame....my god.....go back to making comics instead of crying because you don't want to work for something.

[MaxPlanck]

At roughly 100 piles a day, It'll take just over a month to do the ark. My group put in roughly 9% of the ark and said screw it. Why build it for the rest of you? Transporting them is honestly more time consuming.

We have no problem doing 100 a day if we see some effort from the server. Some have been interested in joining my town, but sadly no, this is still Salem. You can't join

Just know if you throw a town bell up, you might get wiped out. Be happy with the ark.

100 piles a day? Do you know how much space that will take up after a week? 500-700 piles, good luck Pclaiming or TBelling all that area else you could have some renegades destroying them when they pass by. And even with a claim you still have cannons and lots of fun stuff.

[Tulgarath]

At roughly 100 piles a day, It'll take just over a month to do the ark. My group put in roughly 9% of the ark and said screw it. Why build it for the rest of you? Transporting them is honestly more time consuming.

We have no problem doing 100 a day if we see some effort from the server. Some have been interested in joining my town, but sadly no, this is still Salem. You can't join

Just know if you throw a town bell up, you might get wiped out. Be happy with the ark.

100 piles a day? Do you know how much space that will take up after a week? 500-700 piles, good luck Pclaiming or TBelling all that area else you could have some renegades destroying them when they pass by. And even with a claim you still have cannons and lots of fun stuff.

Yes i do. I make 100 at a time . It's work, not a gift. Again, said didn't want to do it alone. If a couple people do 20 a day, revolve your stock. 5 people. .a month.

[TotalyMeow]

Ok devs, now that you know that people plays for fun and not for duty, you have to decide if you want a game with animals for future players or you don't give a --- about your time spent in this system and the future players enjoinment. XD

You can't decide what's fun for others. To me, join a new server and mass-product stuff like a drone is zero fun, so i don't use a minute of my time for a task that i would not enjoy that much.
For others, that could be fun, but also a deep unbalancing of the actual system, so maybe they don't care to change their way to play.

This situation will go on for ages if you don't choose what you want to do with Your time spent on this development.
Drop it and delete the animals, or plan a new quest that's is less blackmailing.

There was a game John and I used to play together. People had to team up and work in those teams (and betrayal there was just as possible and devastating as in Salem) for months to achieve the server goal, and the winning team got nothing but bragging rights, some shinys for player's profiles, and the knowledge that they won. In that game, you had to build your own 'ark' while the other teams tried to build theirs AND destroy yours. In Salem, the witches couldn't even hamper you and everyone could help with the ark without even having to worry about betrayal. I was quite surprised when you all let the witches win, especially when it's been only one guy in the witch faction who will get animals when you all don't.

Now, I guess I can understand you not finding it fun to work toward a goal in game, to put in some effort in exchange for advancement in the game... but if you don't find that fun, why are you playing Salem at all? Building an ark to get animals is no different from building a character to go get raid loots with, or building a tailor and selling high quality clothes to get silver with, or mining out to low levels of a mine to get the best knives.

I also don't see how this is 'unbalancing'. If you want animals, build the ark, if you don't care, don't build the ark. Animals will get in the game by the winning witch and he can keep a strangle hold on the market if he wants, it's entirely up to you. We have no intention of just deleting animals. You might have a much harder time getting them than you could have had though.

What is funny is that people actually seem to care about their bases and characters on Popham, like they aren't temporary. No one seems able to realize that Popham isn't Providence. Like Tulgarath saying no one can join his town and that he'll destroy any bell he sees out of paranoia. He has literally nothing to lose at this point by taking a chance on someone joining and helping him build the ark, but it seems he can't help it. Having animals be a goal in Popham isn't unbalancing because the goal (livestock) is literally the ONLY thing on the entire server that has any value whatsoever. There has to be something to work for or there's no point in playing the expedition.

Yeah, the ark should have been easy to build; we were worried it would be too easy. We failed to account for the appalling laziness of the population and your ability to whine so hard you actually convince yourselves your laziness is justified. You could totally still finish the ark even now.

[Kuulikindel1]

As i already was suggesting while ago. If people collectively decide to build a smaller ark - they should be able to do that. Do we have some democracy in Salem or is it just an illusion. Make a poll. Less materials = less animals on the ark Anyway, just a thought

[Dallane]

As i already was suggesting while ago. If people collectively decide to build a smaller ark - they should be able to do that. Do we have some democracy in Salem or is it just an illusion. Make a poll. Less materials = less animals on the ark Anyway, just a thought

good lord the lvl of entitlement is beyond belief. Your idea is bad and not what the devs want.

[TotalyMeow]

As i already was suggesting while ago. If people collectively decide to build a smaller ark - they should be able to do that. Do we have some democracy in Salem or is it just an illusion. Make a poll. Less materials = less animals on the ark Anyway, just a thought

Democracy in Salem isn't an illusion. No one has ever claimed it exists. If the majority of players decide they want a button that adds one to each humor every time it's clicked, we won't give you that either.

Maybe you're confusing Democracy with Sandbox, which isn't the same thing. Sandbox means you have a great deal of freedom to do things like build complex bases or set up an oligarchy or whatever. It doesn't mean we change the game based on your whims.

We do like to ask your opinion and sometimes put up polls and ask for your ideas to help us improve the game, but it's ultimately our decision what gets changed and what doesn't.

Oh, and you CAN build a smaller ark if you want. You already have. It's just not seaworthy and it won't float. Sandbox.

[Nsuidara]

exsist small ark ? :O

[Qiresea]

lol nsu