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Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 1:33 pm
by MaxPlanck
Ignore the part about it being "old". Tell me why the current system is "broken" and I might consider what you are saying.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 2:46 pm
by Nsuidara
MaxPlanck wrote:Ignore the part about it being "old". Tell me why the current system is "broken" and I might consider what you are saying.

- many recipes, they are useless
- many groups of food - they must exists it because here exists debuff - it is totally unnecessary (that part Hungry System work)
- too many subprocesses to produce food, hunt + fieds + garden + boiled + bake etc. in low-rate food...
- contrived - we need something simpler
last one It's difficult to balance

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 5:27 pm
by MaxPlanck
So what you are saying is we need to just change recipes of the lower tier foods.

No need to revamp the whole system into something else just because of that.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:03 pm
by Dallane
Nsuidara wrote: aids


I got full blown dog aids just reading this. Like others have said it hurts the system more than it helps.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:04 pm
by JohnCarver
Nsuidara wrote:- many recipes, they are useless


I have challenged players on numerous occasions to show me the unbalance or uselessness of recipes. I now pass that torch to you.

Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:19 pm
by Nsuidara
JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

You are right I am just not experienced enough to find any shortcomings but I feel that perhaps somebody who is a better player than me can do so.
i hope they try because it is too hard for me to figure out and i just comment on how i feel without knowing how to fix.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:20 pm
by lachlaan
JohnCarver wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:- many recipes, they are useless


I have challenged players on numerous occasions to show me the unbalance or uselessness of recipes. I now pass that torch to you.

Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.


Challenge accepted, will edit after i have dinner. I think the sheer amount of recipes makes it daunting to try and formulate a coherent assessment. Also i have an issue formatting legible posts

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:28 pm
by Judaism
Nsuidara wrote:really - we don't need a lot of recipes


I very much agree so, its overcomplicated and a fair share of the current recipes are mind-blowing pointless. A craving system even with the full use of wine does not solve the issue.

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:29 pm
by nosfirebird
Nsuidara wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

Why i shoud do this ?
Example. Bajgiels vs vs Tenderboiled Terrine + Slow Roast ?
and you will nerf Bajgiels ?

You can only feel shame.
I will not play your buckwheat - where i show RECIPE and you will nerf it
Do you know the way ?

Except one food ALL Domesticated Meat it's usless.

Player focus for food where here its low things to do.
Food where need 2-3 tier plants from fields + plants for garden + for meat or combine this... player choose where it's small work to do...

the whole category is pretty much worthless i glutted 1 time with dom meat and wont do it again there are no ok restores argo eggs are a severe timesink to farm and candy is worthless at 50/50 have to eat 5 of them to restore id suggest argo eggs go 40/80 and candy go 30/80

Re: Gluttony

PostPosted: Thu Feb 22, 2018 7:45 pm
by Nsuidara
nosfirebird wrote:
Nsuidara wrote:
JohnCarver wrote:Show me two recipes, where one recipe in ALL cases is a better recipe to use and I will consider balancing that. For every day that you fail to do so, is an admission that the current system/balance is perfect.

Why i shoud do this ?
Example. Bajgiels vs vs Tenderboiled Terrine + Slow Roast ?
and you will nerf Bajgiels ?

You can only feel shame.
I will not play your buckwheat - where i show RECIPE and you will nerf it
Do you know the way ?

Except one food ALL Domesticated Meat it's usless.

Player focus for food where here its low things to do.
Food where need 2-3 tier plants from fields + plants for garden + for meat or combine this... player choose where it's small work to do...

the whole category is pretty much worthless i glutted 1 time with dom meat and wont do it again there are no ok restores argo eggs are a severe timesink to farm and candy is worthless at 50/50 have to eat 5 of them to restore id suggest argo eggs go 40/80 and candy go 30/80

It's right
Example, Berries wasn't good food ethier, now JC implement "Players now get refunded hte Jar when consuming Cranberry Sauce." before was usless, but still player can't produce Sugar :P