Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby ceromaster » Tue Mar 11, 2014 9:43 pm

The last days i keep getting "Haven error!" crashes right after the .jar file checks, before the login screen, therefore the game does not start.
Find it here, I couldn't copy it to clipboard, sorry: http://postimg.org/image/duz3501jf
Anyone else has similar issues?

This is the output from the java console while checking the .jar files:
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Java Web Start 1.6.0_27
Using JRE version 1.6.0_27-b07 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\eceroga
----------------------------------------------------
c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
p:   reload proxy configuration
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system and deployment properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
Trace level set to 5: all ... completed.
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://plymouth.seatribe.se/java/jogl2/jar/gluegen-rt-natives-windows-i586.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://plymouth.seatribe.se:80 with proxy=DIRECT
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/jogl.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://www.havenandhearth.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/gluegen-rt.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/salem-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://game.salemthegame.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/builtin-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/salem.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://enderwiggin.github.io:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/client-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT


After this I immediately get Haven error! crash window with this inside:
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java.lang.Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:397)
   at haven.MainFrame.main2(MainFrame.java:410)
   at haven.MainFrame.access$100(MainFrame.java:63)
   at haven.MainFrame$8.run(MainFrame.java:480)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at javax.swing.SwingUtilities.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:388)
   ... 4 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at haven.TexGL$TexDraw.<clinit>(TexGL.java:83)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:154)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:282)
   at haven.TexI.<init>(TexI.java:42)
   at haven.Resource$Image$1.<init>(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource$Image.tex(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource.loadtex(Resource.java:1528)
   at haven.LoginScreen.<clinit>(LoginScreen.java:47)
   at haven.MainFrame$5.run(MainFrame.java:391)
   at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   ... 35 more


This is the content of the error.html in the Salem directory:
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Error Report

Reported at: 2014-03-11 21:59:47
Properties
Name   Value
cpus   4
jar.git-rev   04.03.2014 09:28
java.vendor   Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.version   1.6.0_27
mem.free   10,729,752
mem.max   259,522,560
mem.total   16,252,928
os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7
os.version   6.1
thcl   haven.HackThread
thnm   Haven main thread
Exception chain
java.lang.Error

java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
Class   Function   File   Line
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   397
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

(null)
Class   Function   File   Line
java.awt.EventQueue   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
javax.swing.SwingUtilities   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   388
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError

com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1


What's strange for me is that i have 64 bit win7 OS and I see this in the error report:
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os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Monsterix » Tue Mar 11, 2014 10:51 pm

Kandarim wrote:weird, java is supposed to (and for me, does) show a more informative error message ("self-signed application was blocked from starting by your security settings")



Do you find way to get rid of that block? Cause i have same problem.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Snowpig » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:05 am

Any updates on the lag which occurs when entering "Badlands"-terrain? I experience it on two different computers.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Kandarim » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:19 am

ceromaster wrote:The last days i keep getting "Haven error!" crashes right after the .jar file checks, before the login screen, therefore the game does not start.
Find it here, I couldn't copy it to clipboard, sorry: http://postimg.org/image/duz3501jf
Anyone else has similar issues?

This is the output from the java console while checking the .jar files:
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Java Web Start 1.6.0_27
Using JRE version 1.6.0_27-b07 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\eceroga
----------------------------------------------------
c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
p:   reload proxy configuration
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system and deployment properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
Trace level set to 5: all ... completed.
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://plymouth.seatribe.se/java/jogl2/jar/gluegen-rt-natives-windows-i586.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://plymouth.seatribe.se:80 with proxy=DIRECT
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/jogl.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://www.havenandhearth.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/gluegen-rt.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/salem-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://game.salemthegame.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/builtin-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/salem.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://enderwiggin.github.io:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/client-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT


After this I immediately get Haven error! crash window with this inside:
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java.lang.Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:397)
   at haven.MainFrame.main2(MainFrame.java:410)
   at haven.MainFrame.access$100(MainFrame.java:63)
   at haven.MainFrame$8.run(MainFrame.java:480)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at javax.swing.SwingUtilities.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:388)
   ... 4 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at haven.TexGL$TexDraw.<clinit>(TexGL.java:83)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:154)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:282)
   at haven.TexI.<init>(TexI.java:42)
   at haven.Resource$Image$1.<init>(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource$Image.tex(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource.loadtex(Resource.java:1528)
   at haven.LoginScreen.<clinit>(LoginScreen.java:47)
   at haven.MainFrame$5.run(MainFrame.java:391)
   at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   ... 35 more


This is the content of the error.html in the Salem directory:
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Error Report

Reported at: 2014-03-11 21:59:47
Properties
Name   Value
cpus   4
jar.git-rev   04.03.2014 09:28
java.vendor   Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.version   1.6.0_27
mem.free   10,729,752
mem.max   259,522,560
mem.total   16,252,928
os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7
os.version   6.1
thcl   haven.HackThread
thnm   Haven main thread
Exception chain
java.lang.Error

java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
Class   Function   File   Line
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   397
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

(null)
Class   Function   File   Line
java.awt.EventQueue   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
javax.swing.SwingUtilities   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   388
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError

com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1


What's strange for me is that i have 64 bit win7 OS and I see this in the error report:
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os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7


You'll want to delete the jogl-all and gluegen-rt files in C:\users\<name>\Salem\bin\
Don't worry about deleting files in there: if they're missing the launcher will simply download them again.

Monsterix wrote:
Kandarim wrote:weird, java is supposed to (and for me, does) show a more informative error message ("self-signed application was blocked from starting by your security settings")



Do you find way to get rid of that block? Cause i have same problem.


http://forum.salemthegame.com/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=8388

Snowpig wrote:Any updates on the lag which occurs when entering "Badlands"-terrain? I experience it on two different computers.


I'm sorry, I haven't encountered this yet myself ...
I have neither the crayons nor the time to explain it to you.
JC wrote:I'm not fully committed to being wrong on that yet.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Snowpig » Wed Mar 12, 2014 9:35 am

I try different graphics-settings tonight. Maybe i can pinpoint it to a certain setting which makes things laggy.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby ceromaster » Fri Mar 14, 2014 5:10 pm

Kandarim wrote:
ceromaster wrote:The last days i keep getting "Haven error!" crashes right after the .jar file checks, before the login screen, therefore the game does not start.
Find it here, I couldn't copy it to clipboard, sorry: http://postimg.org/image/duz3501jf
Anyone else has similar issues?

This is the output from the java console while checking the .jar files:
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Java Web Start 1.6.0_27
Using JRE version 1.6.0_27-b07 Java HotSpot(TM) Client VM
User home directory = C:\Users\eceroga
----------------------------------------------------
c:   clear console window
f:   finalize objects on finalization queue
g:   garbage collect
h:   display this help message
m:   print memory usage
o:   trigger logging
p:   reload proxy configuration
q:   hide console
r:   reload policy configuration
s:   dump system and deployment properties
t:   dump thread list
v:   dump thread stack
0-5: set trace level to <n>
----------------------------------------------------
Trace level set to 5: all ... completed.
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://plymouth.seatribe.se/java/jogl2/jar/gluegen-rt-natives-windows-i586.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://plymouth.seatribe.se:80 with proxy=DIRECT
java.net.ConnectException: Connection timed out: connect
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.socketConnect(Native Method)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connectToAddress(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.PlainSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.SocksSocketImpl.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.Socket.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.NetworkClient.doConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.openServer(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.<init>(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.http.HttpClient.New(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getNewHttpClient(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.plainConnect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.connect(Unknown Source)
   at sun.net.www.protocol.http.HttpURLConnection.getInputStream(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.HttpURLConnection.getResponseCode(Unknown Source)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.has_update(Updater.java:76)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater.access$2(Updater.java:69)
   at org.ender.updater.Updater$1.run(Updater.java:36)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/jogl.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://www.havenandhearth.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://www.havenandhearth.com/java/jogl/gluegen-rt.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/salem-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://game.salemthegame.com:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://game.salemthegame.com/java/builtin-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/salem.jar with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting socket://enderwiggin.github.io:80 with proxy=DIRECT
network: Connecting http://enderwiggin.github.io/Salem/client-res.jar with proxy=DIRECT


After this I immediately get Haven error! crash window with this inside:
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java.lang.Error: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:397)
   at haven.MainFrame.main2(MainFrame.java:410)
   at haven.MainFrame.access$100(MainFrame.java:63)
   at haven.MainFrame$8.run(MainFrame.java:480)
   at java.lang.Thread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
   at java.awt.EventQueue.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at javax.swing.SwingUtilities.invokeAndWait(Unknown Source)
   at haven.MainFrame.javabughack(MainFrame.java:388)
   ... 4 more
Caused by: java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass1(Native Method)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClassCond(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.SecureClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.defineClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at haven.TexGL$TexDraw.<clinit>(TexGL.java:83)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:154)
   at haven.TexGL.<init>(TexGL.java:282)
   at haven.TexI.<init>(TexI.java:42)
   at haven.Resource$Image$1.<init>(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource$Image.tex(Resource.java:626)
   at haven.Resource.loadtex(Resource.java:1528)
   at haven.LoginScreen.<clinit>(LoginScreen.java:47)
   at haven.MainFrame$5.run(MainFrame.java:391)
   at java.awt.event.InvocationEvent.dispatch(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEventImpl(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.access$000(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.security.AccessControlContext$1.doIntersectionPrivilege(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventQueue.dispatchEvent(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpOneEventForFilters(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForFilter(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEventsForHierarchy(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.pumpEvents(Unknown Source)
   at java.awt.EventDispatchThread.run(Unknown Source)
Caused by: java.lang.ClassNotFoundException: com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
   at java.net.URLClassLoader$1.run(Unknown Source)
   at java.security.AccessController.doPrivileged(Native Method)
   at java.net.URLClassLoader.findClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   at java.lang.ClassLoader.loadClass(Unknown Source)
   ... 35 more


This is the content of the error.html in the Salem directory:
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Error Report

Reported at: 2014-03-11 21:59:47
Properties
Name   Value
cpus   4
jar.git-rev   04.03.2014 09:28
java.vendor   Sun Microsystems Inc.
java.version   1.6.0_27
mem.free   10,729,752
mem.max   259,522,560
mem.total   16,252,928
os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7
os.version   6.1
thcl   haven.HackThread
thnm   Haven main thread
Exception chain
java.lang.Error

java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException
Class   Function   File   Line
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   397
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.reflect.InvocationTargetException

(null)
Class   Function   File   Line
java.awt.EventQueue   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
javax.swing.SwingUtilities   invokeAndWait   (null)   -1
haven.MainFrame   javabughack   MainFrame.java   388
haven.MainFrame   main2   MainFrame.java   410
haven.MainFrame   access$100   MainFrame.java   63
haven.MainFrame$8   run   MainFrame.java   480
java.lang.Thread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError

com/jogamp/common/type/WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassNotFoundException

com.jogamp.common.type.WriteCloneable
Class   Function   File   Line
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass1   (null)   -2
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClassCond   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.security.SecureClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   defineClass   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader   access$000   (null)   -1
java.net.URLClassLoader$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.net.URLClassLoader   findClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
sun.misc.Launcher$AppClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
java.lang.ClassLoader   loadClass   (null)   -1
haven.TexGL$TexDraw   <clinit>   TexGL.java   83
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   154
haven.TexGL   <init>   TexGL.java   282
haven.TexI   <init>   TexI.java   42
haven.Resource$Image$1   <init>   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource$Image   tex   Resource.java   626
haven.Resource   loadtex   Resource.java   1528
haven.LoginScreen   <clinit>   LoginScreen.java   47
haven.MainFrame$5   run   MainFrame.java   391
java.awt.event.InvocationEvent   dispatch   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEventImpl   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   access$000   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue$1   run   (null)   -1
java.security.AccessController   doPrivileged   (null)   -2
java.security.AccessControlContext$1   doIntersectionPrivilege   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventQueue   dispatchEvent   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpOneEventForFilters   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForFilter   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEventsForHierarchy   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   pumpEvents   (null)   -1
java.awt.EventDispatchThread   run   (null)   -1


What's strange for me is that i have 64 bit win7 OS and I see this in the error report:
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os.arch   x86
os.name   Windows 7


You'll want to delete the jogl-all and gluegen-rt files in C:\users\<name>\Salem\bin\
Don't worry about deleting files in there: if they're missing the launcher will simply download them again.



That removed the haven error crash, but the graphic glitch and sudden exit still remains.
I give up, if it is really a graphic card issue, i recommend staying away from nVidia Quadro K1000M.

Thank you for the help and tips!
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Kandarim » Fri Mar 14, 2014 7:36 pm

you can always try the

:gl meshmode d

option, which switches the rendering to displaylists, as far as I know, which is better supported than the vertex arrays used by default.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby ceromaster » Mon Mar 17, 2014 12:25 am

Kandarim wrote:you can always try the

:gl meshmode d

option, which switches the rendering to displaylists, as far as I know, which is better supported than the vertex arrays used by default.


I think this was it, thanks.
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby xsunxx » Tue Mar 18, 2014 9:31 pm

hi all can you help when i thray to update it with that client it says some error like one in picture but alot more tings not only ones you have on picture same window but more errors so shal i link you errors os there is someting i ma doing wron maybe when i update but i dont tink so
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Re: Custom client by Latikai, building on Ender's client

Postby Kandarim » Tue Mar 18, 2014 10:49 pm

xsunxx wrote:hi all can you help when i thray to update it with that client it says some error like one in picture but alot more tings not only ones you have on picture same window but more errors so shal i link you errors os there is someting i ma doing wron maybe when i update but i dont tink so
thx in advance


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