Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wise

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Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wise

Postby Sevenless » Sat Aug 11, 2012 9:11 pm

Good example being meat pies unlocking before you have the skill to make pie dough. There's a couple others relating to planks early game, but I forget what they are exactly. Rope seems to unlock a little too early too, it would make more sense to have rope unlock with either weaving or seamanship. Weaving wouldn't limit rope because pulleys/levers is a fairly highish skill to get.
It's been neat to see the evolution of a game. Salem has come so far, and still has far to go. Although frustrating, I think it's been an experience worth the effort.
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby five9 » Sat Aug 11, 2012 10:23 pm

i know what ya mean...i did not think of it much prewipe,

like with rope,, i was able to take someone elses loom and use that without being able to make one

hahaha
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby Sevenless » Sun Aug 12, 2012 12:29 am

five9 wrote:i know what ya mean...i did not think of it much prewipe,

like with rope,, i was able to take someone elses loom and use that without being able to make one

hahaha


I'm ok with rope being unlocked before pulleys and leavers because you can still create the input ingredients (hay). With Meat Pies, it's literally impossible for you to make them, even if all the buildings are available, because you don't know how to make pie dough. That's one of the obvious ones that needs changing.
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby jorb » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:17 am

Will fix the pies and the rope.
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby Ass_Kraken » Sun Aug 12, 2012 2:56 am

Not the rope! :cry:
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby Potjeh » Sun Aug 12, 2012 8:33 am

Maybe someone else in the village conveniently left the baking tables filled with pie doughs?
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby EnderWiggin » Sun Aug 12, 2012 9:11 am

I thought that was intentional - that way new player joining the village can be useful in shorter amount of time. And hermits not so much affected because they anyway should get all skills
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby aragaer » Sun Aug 12, 2012 1:19 pm

Torch is the most obvious to me - you need a sharpened stick (two actually) to make a torch but can't do that without whittling. Either make torch to use branches or move it to whittling.
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby Glennfinnan » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:13 pm

I hardly doubt that you need the how-to-construct a loom knowledge to be able to craft a rope if you do know how to do it.
In real life theres a lot of items, tools which we use daily, but we do not know how to construct them.
Hopefully this is clear enough
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Re: Items unlocking before ingredients can be made skill wis

Postby Oin32 » Tue Aug 14, 2012 7:59 pm

Are you not able to make all of those things when you have all the right skills? Please do not cater to make things easier. It should take time and effort. The easier you make it to get to the end, the faster people will stop playing. Just my 2cents.
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