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Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 5:28 pm
by Heffernan
Hello John Carver,

noticed something today sieging a town (Sankarea)

been draining Authority from the town for a long time placing "poopclaims" aka Challenge Authority

now the problem.... the current owner did this...

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1) Top right Townclaim
2) rest of the Screen pclaim

he increased the Personal Claim in such a size that it covers on 3 sides (4th side hits map edge) atleast 10 tiles over the Townclaim and therefore a town can never be Challenged for Authority again unless you do a Summonable Crime on it.

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already did a test that it indeed leaves summonable scents:

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my solution attemp? exempt the challenge authority object from the crime on pclaim setting, you will still leave a scent trespassing the pclaim but atleast not summonable.

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 6:57 pm
by Ronch
Hi Heff, don't you think it would have been better to report this exploit 'privately' to Marp ?

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:00 pm
by Heffernan
Ronch wrote:Hi Heff, don't you think it would have been better to report this exploit 'privately' to Marp ?


i did, im not sure what JC thinks or if he got something wrong, but this is Marps Reply (out of a long talk)

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Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:06 pm
by Ronch
Okay, so now your tactic is to share the exploit publicly. Very helpful...

Come'on Heff, think about it.

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 7:46 pm
by Methuzelah23
Working as intended and always been this way.

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:53 pm
by Heffernan
Methuzelah23 wrote:Working as intended and always been this way.


ofcourse its "working as intended" since you abuse it

but it is bugged and was never meant to be as marp mentioned pclaims has a fixed maximum size and JC neve though poopclaims might become important when he incresed the size.

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 9:57 pm
by Methuzelah23
Heffernan wrote:
Methuzelah23 wrote:Working as intended and always been this way.


ofcourse its "working as intended" since you abuse it

but it is bugged and was never meant to be as marp mentioned pclaims has a fixed maximum size and JC neve though poopclaims might become important when he incresed the size.


Sell me one of those fancy buckets cause the regular ones aren't big enough to hold all these tears

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:31 pm
by Judaism
Cool to argue about mechanics which we experienced and used over 5 years ago.

But yes, back in 2015 orso when we were having a perm poopclaim base at Darwoth's place he stated that it was intended.

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:37 pm
by Heffernan
Judaism wrote:Cool to argue about mechanics which we experienced and used over 5 years ago.

But yes, back in 2015 orso when we were having a perm poopclaim base at Darwoth's place he stated that it was intended.


what does a pema poopclaim, have to do with this? this is being unable to poopclaim someone forever...

Re: Pclaim/Townclaim/Challenge Authority Permission Bug

PostPosted: Mon May 20, 2019 10:52 pm
by Ronch
@Heff
You can still poopclaim them Heff, will just leave a summon-able scent. :roll:

BTW, Everyone reading this who did not know before, well, now they do know how to keep you from poopclaiming their Town.
You really are a genius, I am a believer, I can't believe it took me this long.