Salem

I don't know, wether wikipedia informations should be trusted at all, since in minor details, like food values they contain dated information, but in more serious topics I expected them to be precise, that's what I base this topic on.

The salemwiki.info website states, that cave-down causes heavy blood damage, which salem-wiki.com reinforces and also states, that damage dealing cave-downs only happen from 4 to 5 and below.

I was minin at level 2, just to get rubble, though hoping for a level 3 entrance I heated some dark walls, and I happened to mine just those, I did not give much thought to that, since when I purposely tried to find a cave-down, it just did not want to happen.
But now it did, and did with a great impact...
While mining, I triggered 2 cave-ins, but just wanted to get a bunch of more boulders out of that rock, befor placing the support. Which happened to be a terrible idea. At the worst moment, I triggered the cave-down. What I did not expect, was a full damage on all four humours, full 60 blood gone, 65 yellow gone, 64 black gone and about 40/65 phlegm (since it wasn't full) also gone. Furthermore, I don't know, how it is supposed to work, but my body got to level 3, which was also full of bats.

I ate every healig food I kept at my base (I keep mostly gluttony foods in containers, while healing foods mainly in inventory), but that wasn't helping much. Hurried back to the mine and down to level 3. But the bats did not despawn yet and was so low on blood and yellow (8-10), I couldn't put up a fight or just grab some stuff, I had to retreat empty handed. I went quickly looking for food, but then the last problem hit. The cave-down did not clear (I don't know whether it should) the two cave-ins in progress, so when I returned with humours filled, the entrance was completely covered in rocks, I had to dig a hole to it, but when I got there, obviously, everything was gone... (Also, it look ridiculous, though I won't upload a pic about it, since it's unrelated to the post, the entrance has unminable tiles placed upon itself, I click a small pile of rock sticking out of the wall to get one level below.)

I honestly don't know, how many of the things I stated are intended, and how many of them are not and I'm sorry if I'm wasting anyone's time telling all of this, but all this felt so out of place. Not the usual punishing feeling the game makes for every misstep (and what we like about it), but pure trolling (added, that I just finished crafting a weeklong reserve of healing food, which now I have lost for the second time this week).

I believe mostly everything is intended because I faced same KO's when mining from 2nd to 3rd level, the only thing that stands out is the mining tiles on the entrance, In my opinion you should message probably Marp and ask him for help, it was just a hard way of learning how mines work.

And that you don't need to play with those cave-ins, just place the support as fast as you can.

if u got the entrance screwed by unminable tiles put separate topic about this bug, then bake some cakes and wait for the black forces

Silverfish wrote:if u got the entrance screwed by unminable tiles put separate topic about this bug, then bake some cakes and wait for the black forces

The entrance is working actually, but is ugly as hell. I was just surprised, that the close proximity of an entrance and the entrance itself is not protected from cave-ins.

if the coincidence of the cavein and mine entrance gave any unminable tiles better report this, i saw some topics fixed, fingers crossed for the clean and safe mines

I am not sure where you found the info that lower level cave downs don't cause damage. The wiki page does not seem to mention this at all http://salemwiki.info/index.php/Mining. But it is true that lower levels deal less damage, so most people will likely not notice it much.

Aside from that, I only read mechanics that are intended (bats, cave-ins and so on). Use mine supports

pberci wrote:While mining, I triggered 2 cave-ins, but just wanted to get a bunch of more boulders out of that rock, befor placing the support

Why would you possibly think that has any advantage whatsoever?

pberci wrote:I don't know, wether wikipedia informations should be trusted at all, since in minor details, like food values they contain dated information, but in more serious topics I expected them to be precise, that's what I base this topic on.

What do you mean with "food values contain dated informations"?
If you find wrong informations there, then please post it in viewtopic.php?f=5&t=15688
Even food pages are serious pages and many people work on the wiki to correct errors. Just they can not be everywhere and monitor every values.
Instead to untrust the wiki, help us to improve the informations there!

pberci wrote:While mining, I triggered 2 cave-ins, but just wanted to get a bunch of more boulders out of that rock, befor placing the support. Which happened to be a terrible idea. At the worst moment, I triggered the cave-down.

It is never a good idea to dig formerly black tiles that is not under a mine support, because every black tile can trigger a cave down.
If you like to set Supports in a planned place and it is not possible to set them, just set a temporary support and remove it later, if you have reached your planned place.

pberci wrote: Not the usual punishing feeling the game makes for every misstep (and what we like about it), but pure trolling (added, that I just finished crafting a weeklong reserve of healing food, which now I have lost for the second time this week).

In this case, this is intended!
Salem works in this way and just in this way.
I bet, the most of us who was going through this valley of tears don't like to change much on this system.
At the end i just can tell you, even you don't want to hear it, it will happen to you more than once in your Salemlife.
It is better that you get used to it, then you will have a happy and funny long life in the Salemworld.

My advice would be to not carry a week's worth of food in your inventory, or too much else, for that matter, while you are mining.

I'll give you 50 0% trailmix.